DOGSHOW TRANSCRIPT Revised 1/6/03 001 01:07:08 SUSAN: Whenıs a good time to catch you when you can sort of kick back and answer a few questions? MAN: Just about any time. SUSAN: Really? MAN: Really, really... 01:07:14 SUSAN: So.. MAN: Other than when Iım showing two days over in (inaudible) there, say a half-hour, forty-five minutes. SUSAN:Well, where would you pick to do that here to get away from the maddening crowds? MAN: Do it right here. SUSAN:O.K., say three oı clock, Friday, here. MAN: Here. SUSAN:What time does everything start here on Friday? MAN: Eight oı clock in the morning. SUSAN:Eight a.m. 01:07:36 MAN: Sharp, thatıs where all the great shows start. SUSAN:Over, there.. MAN: Yeah.. SUSAN:O.K., thatıs fine, Uh.. MAN: And then Saturday, all the great shows start here at eight oı clock. SUSAN:Whatıs happening here for Britney on Saturday? MAN: Thereıs gonna be, in conjunction with the show, with their own, well, its gonna be... (Off screen, a smacking sound) SUSAN:Iım sorry, I didnıt hear you. MAN: A supported entry. But since itıs basically a specialty show, itıs in conjunction with a regular show, what they call a supported entry. SUSAN: Got it. MAN: Will be, approximately 130 entries, we had 104...106 today. 01:08:17 SUSAN: Well, when will it be a good time to catch you when you can sort of kick back and answer a few questions? MAN: Just about any time. SUSAN: Really, so... MAN: Really, really, other than when Iım showing two dogs over in (inaudible) there, say one half hour,forty-five minutes. SUSAN:Well, where would you pick to do that here? To sort of get away from the maddening crowds? 01:08:37 MAN: Letıs do it right here, next to the agility if its reasonably nice weather. 01:08:42 SUSAN: O.K. Alright...sounds good. (Dog sneezes) MAN: O.K...this is, this is, uh, amateur field champion. Heıs from (inaudible) and he has over eighty field trial places. SUSAN: Uh huh. MAN: Which thirty of them are first. 01:09:07 SUSAN: Uh huh...Wow, Wow! Thatıs impressive! Now why wasnıt she laying down for you? Little bellying for a moment there? MAN: Well, yeah. SUSAN:(laughs) MAN: Well, this isnıt the same one that I ran that was fast... SUSAN: Oh, Oh!! MAN: Thatıs a daughter of hersı... SUSAN: See, I canıt tell.. MAN: this is a nine year old female that I started fiddling around with...she does this because I ask her to...You know weıre talkinı about bond, sheılldo anything that I ask her to. She might not really doit enthusiastically, but sheıll do practically anything within five minutes. 01:09:36 SUSAN: Where would you pick to do that here, to get away from the maddening crowds? MAN:We can do it right away here, right here next to the agility if its reasonably nice weather. SUSAN: Sounds good (Dog sneezes) 01:09:54 MAN: This is, this is, uh, (inaudible) amateur field champion. Sheıs from (inaudible) and sheıs had over eighty field trial places and thirty of them first. SUSAN:Wow...wow!! MAN: Great field dog. SUSAN:Thatıs impressive. Now why wasnıt she laying down there for you? A little bellying going on up there? 01:10:13 MAN: Well.. SUSAN: (laughs) MAN: Well, this wasnıt the same as... 01:10:20 GROOMER: Turn around here, let me get this first. Good boy, come here (kiss, kiss), puppy (kiss)...(kiss)...(kiss)...good boy!! 01:10:35 GROOMER: I like to grind the nails because that way theyıre not sharp. And also with grinding them, you can make them much shorter and its healthier for the dog as well as, uh, not getting scratched all the time...you know.. if the dog jumps up on ya... 01:10:56 SUSAN: And your dogıs name is... GROOMER: Credit, credit...sure coach you know my name, is his registered name...and his call name is Credit. and this is chalk...and we like to use the chalk just to, you know, give a little bit more body to the hair and you can work it a little bit better.. make him more kind of finished.. you know... GROOMER: (kiss, kiss, kiss) SUSAN: How old is Credit? 01:11:35 GROOMER: Heıs seven months, heıs a puppy. So he is to get used to all this stuff because , uh,you know.. heıll be well traveled, not only will he go to the dog shows, but heıll compete in other things,like obedience and agility and hunting and so heıll be traveling a lot and everything. He has to get used to everything that goes with those different events on the road. 01:12:02 SUSAN:This is his first competition? GROOMER: This is his first competition... Yeah, his first, uh, real road trip traveling to a dog show. And, uh, with other dog, in a van and staying in a motel and... you know.. getting up early and getting in late, and eating on the roadŠ thatıs, thatıs real, real important. 01:12:28 GROOMER: They have to learn that, you know, they have to handle it so that they continue to eat so that they donıt drop weight...huh, huh Buddy? 01:12:38:00 RED: (grooming dog) I feed a combination of a dried food with a little bit of canned food in it and then they also get supplements. Like I feed uh, C,E,A and uh, in addition to uh those are vitamins C,E,A in addition to the regular food. OFF SCREEN: Tell us about the 01:13:00 obedience, or no, what is the competition today? RED: The um, the competition today is what we call breeder confirmation, ok, and uh, for the Brittany we have a uh recognized set of standards and it talks about how tall the dog should be, you know, um uh, what the head should be like, what the eyes should be like, what the top line should be like, what the tail set should be like, what her coat should be like, all these different things so when we go into a uh ring with the judge, that judge is to know that standard and then take a look at this dog and say, well according to that standard, do I think that this dog meets those standards, then, how does this dog compare to all the other dogs that are in that class. As you win your class you continue to go up. You go in to beat the other dogs from other classes as well as females uh, so, you know, and eventually it comes down to what we call the best of breed. The very best dog in that judges opinion at that show on 01:14:00 this day. And then that, that dog that happens to win breed uh, goes against all the other sporting dogs that are here, you know, like golden retrievers and Irish setters, and Labrador retrievers and then that judge that happens to be in that ring will pick the four best sporting dogs out of the show uh, for this day. OS: Wow RED: Yeah and the number one out of that class will go into the best in show competition which again is the very best dog all over the entire competition for this day. OS: Do you have other dogs? RED: Uh only Brittanys. Yes but I do, I do. I have uh three personal Brittanys of my own uh, and then I Iıve done rescue I do a little bit of rescue work for the Brittanys. OS: Tell us what rescue work is. RED: Um well, you know, unfortunately 01:15:00 there are people out there who, you know, breed dogs and, and maybe they donıt go to the best homes and, and uh stuff, and, you know, or theyıre not the best quality and people donıt want em and they wind up being in a situation where people want to get rid of them or they dump them in shelters and stuff like that. I happen to work with a local shelter who will contact me. Iıll go down and do a little bit of evaluation. Temperament is extremely important to me. A dog has to have a good temperament, you know, to be able to live with it and be able to compete with it. Um, so Iıll go down and do a little bit of evaluation and if the dog um, you know, is ok in the head as well, you know, no serious uh medical problems and Iıll Iıll take the dog into my home and uh, I actually house break it, crate train it, obedience train it to sit down and come when itıs called, that way when it goes back out to another home it will be its last home. It will never get displaced again. It will stay where its supposed to stay. So, you know, and all the breeds you know, do that 01:16:00 you know, and sometimes it just happens people get dogs and they donıt realize that you know, maybe it wasnıt a good time in their life to have one, they have young babies or theyıre moving or something so sometimes dogs wind up in bad situations. OS: How does someone get a rescue dog? RED: Um, the Brittanys have a national rescue group and they can go out onto the internet and look up Brittany rescue and thereıs people, wonderful people all over the country who are doing doing this different stuff with uh, rescues in our areas and uh, they can contact them and uh, you know, weıre going to ask you, you know, do you know anything about the Brittany, do you know what it would be like to live with a Brittany, what do you want out of a dog, you know, and help you decide is the Brittany the dog for you and then, then theyıre uh, going to try to make a match according to the information that they get from you, uh,uh, if they have anything, you know, in that area that will, will suit you or maybe you know, they can move them around a little bit 01:17:00 you know, as people go to dog shows sometimes weıll transport dogs to different parts of the country for personal reasons as well as for the rescue group. OS: Um hm. Now when you say you have three personal Brittanys RED: Uh huh OS: By personal you mean you donıt show them? RED: Uh, no uh, I personally own them, Iım sorry, yeah, I own them but then thereıs always a rescue there or maybe thereıs somebody elseıs dog there you know, that haha I donıt own Iım just maybe working with the dog for some reason mostly, you know, in obedience, you know, I donıt I donıt really show in the ring for other people anything like that but I do do obedience training for other people. OS: Uh hm, uh hm. Do you do agility with your dog? RED: Yes I do. Yes I do, uh huh. OS: Will you be doing agility tomorrow? RED: No Iım not, Iım not. This is since this is his first time out, heıs gonna get lots and lots and lots of attention and uh, so um, heıs the only one that I bought so I could give all my attention to him and let him have funŠ 01.18.08 WOMAN IN RED:(to reporter) Heıs got all my attention this weekend. REPORTER: Wonderful. WOMAN IN RED: Yes like that, he is my baby, (to the dog) arenıt you? You little evil one. What you doing ha? What you doing ha? Mpa, are you a good boy? Arenıt you a good boy? Mamaıs good boy. Yes you are. Yes you are. Why donıt you stand up and look pretty ha? Why donıt you try to stand up and look pretty for my. Come on, stand! Good boy, letıs see how you look, letıs see, hold still, letıs see, letıs seeŠ (to reporter) And you have to train them. This staff isnıt necessary you know easy for him. They have to get trained to stand and stuck up and you know to go to the ringŠ and you rushed in there and you running around and you running around and you know, there is judge, someone you know that the dog doesnıt know, coming up and look at his bite to make sure the dog has a good bite, and going over him touching him and staff like thatŠ 01.19.08 So they have to get used to all this. And unfortunately you can work your dog at home, all you want, but as soon as you take him some place different you know or you know somebody that the dog doesnıt know like the judge comes up, prrr, the dog is like aaaa you know, let me jump in your face and give you a big wet kissŠ REPORTER: Ha, ha, haŠ WOMEN IN RED: ( to dog) Ha? What you think? Ha? Are you pretty boy? Yes you are pretty boy. Yes you are. ( to reporter) Now I am just trying brush his chuck you know a little bit with that little brush. I was just working withŠ I was working to chuck out into fur and kind of letting it set and Iım just kind of finishing all with a little brushŠ brushing it up a little bitŠ REPORTER: This is your first time to this show? WOMAN IN RED: Yes it is. 01.20.08 This is a reallyŠ, this people have done an incredible job to have this four Bretnay specialties and what that means is just you know sort of designed around just Britney breed not entire show but this individual shows are itıs kind of neat, I mean theyıve done a great job and youıve got come and look at it you know, is there anything here that I would be interested in breeding with that person or not. O, there is that dog I heard a lot about, you know youıve got to see him move and staffŠ (to her dog) So, what you think? Spank you? Can I spank you? Can I spank you? What? What? What? What? Where is your steak? Are you ready for your steak? (to reporter) Ha, he has to be tethered on here, because you know, he is young and doesnıt know to stay up here without being tethered or not 01.21.08 He would be gone, but you will eventually learn to stay on the table right, my big boyŠwiping up here, I just like to make sure IŒve got nothing going on in ears, ears infection. Long ear dogs are promptedŠcan prompt to your problems. (to her dog) What you think ha? What you think? Youıre a good boy. You know what that means? Oooo, we got to treat, donıt we? We get no treat for a good boy, pha, look at me, pha, good boy, good boy. (to reporter) Yes I always treat him on the table you know, again it should be a good place, so he gets his treat up here. I donıt take him off the table and put him to the scrack and give him a treat. 01.22.08 Because when you treat a dog, time is very important and aŠ he might not make the connection. He might think he is getting the treat for going on crag not for being good on a table. (to her dog) Ha? Yes! REPORTER: How many times you have him on the table? WOMAN IN RED: Oh, probably haaa six, seven deferent times. I tried aŠI tried to get him up there andŠwell heıs been on it Šactually heıs always been on it, but to get on the table and work on the table like weıre doing right now, probably six or seven timesŠquiet honestly, I mean you knowŠother than thatŠ (to her dog) what you doing? You canıt have this. You canıt have this. No you canıtŠohŠyou canıt eat your brushŠ 01.23.08 Wow somebody roding ha? Somebodyıs getting some exercise, donıt they, ha? Yes they are. Yes they are, pha, pha, phaŠyou good boy. You ready to go to your cray, ha? See to get ready for your show. Youıve got fifteen minutes to get readyŠget readyŠha. Yes we do, come on, letıs get out. Here we go, here we go, here we go. Yes we areŠcome on bodyŠphaŠphaŠhere we go. Good boy. Get off! Oh, what a good 01.23.38.1 boyŠwhat a good boyŠ 01:23:38 Lady in red is grooming dog while talking RED: And they also get supplementsŠ.like I feed uh C E A and uh in addition toŠ.uh those are vitamins C, E, and A in addition to the regular food. 01:23:59 OFFSCREEN: (Female) Tell us about the obediance or no, what is the competition today? 01:24:00 RED: (Combing dog) The um competition today is what we call breeder confirmation okay and um for Britneys we have a uhŠ.a recognized set of standards, and it talks about how tall the dog should be, you know, um uh what the head should be like, what the eyes should be like, what the top line should be like, what the tail set should be like, what her coat should be likeŠ.all those different things so when we go into a ring with the judgeŠ.that judge is to know that standard, and then take a look at this dof and say well according to that standard, do I think that this dog meets those standards, then how does this dog comp (jumpcut) your class is that you continue to go up, you go into beat the other dogs from other classes a-as well as females uh so you know, and eventually it comes down to what we call the best of breedŠ.the very best dog in that judges opinion at that show on this day 01:25:00 and then that that dog that happens to win breed uh goes aginst all the other sporting dogs that are hereŠ.you know like Golden Retrievers, and Irish Setters, and Labrador Retrievers, and then that judge that happens to be in that ring (jumpcut) Britneys OFFSCREEN: (Female) Tell us what rescue works RED: um well you knowŠ.unfortunately there are people out there who you know who breed dogs and maybe they donıt go to the best homes and and uh stuff and you know, or theyıre not the the best quality and people donıt want Œem and they wind up being in a situation where people wanna get rid of em, or they dump Œem in shelters and stuff like that. I happen to work with a local shelter who will contact me. Iıll go down to do a little bit of evaluation. Temperment is extremely important to me. A dog has to have a good temperment, you-you know to be able to live with it and be able to compete with it. Um so Iıll go down and do a little bit of evaluation and if the dog um you know is okay and the head as well, you know no medical problems at all, Iıll take the dog into my house and uh I actually house break it, crate train him, obediance train it to 01:26:00 sit down and come when itıs called. That way when it goes back out to another home, it will be its la-(jumpcut) sometimes it just happens you know. People get dogs and they donıt realize that you knowŠ.maybe it wasnıt a good time in their life to have one, they have young babies, or theyıre moving or somethingŠ.so sometimes dogs wind up in bad situations. OFFSCREEN: (Female) How does someone get a rescued dog from you? RED: Um the Britneys have a national rescue group, and they can go out on the uh internet, and look up Britney rescue and thereıs people, wonderful people all over the country who are doing-doing this different stuff with uh rescues in our areas, and uh they can contact them and uh you know weıre gonna ask you, you know, do you know anything about the Britney? Do you know what it would be like to live with a Britney? What do you want out of the dogŠ.you know, and help you decide is the Britney the dog for you and then uhŠ.theyıre gonna try to make a match according to the in (jumpcut) 01:27:00 own them, but then thereıs always a rescue there or maybe thereıs somebody elses dog there you know that (chuckles) I donıt own, Iım just maybe working with the dog for some reason mostly in-o in obediance you know, I donıt, I donıt really show in the ring for other people or anything like that, but I do do obediance training for other people. OFFSCREEN: (Female) mmm hmmm, mmm hmmmŠ.do you do agility with your dogs? RED: Yes I do, yes I do uh huh OFFSCREEN: (Dog barking in background) Will you be doing agility tomorrow? RED: No Iım not. Iım not this is since this is his first time, but heıs gonna get lots and lots and lots of attention and uh so um (jumpcut) doing this so that he learns to like traveling and going to dog shows or or hunting competitions or whatever it might beŠ.so heıs ge-heıs getting all my attention this weekend. OFFSCREEN: (Female) Thatıs wonderful. RED: Yeah is like that (Baby-talking to dog) heıs my baby, arenıt ya? Youıre a little evil one. OFFSCREEN: (Chuckling) RED: (To dog) What are you doing? huh? What are you doing? huh? (kisses dogıs head) Are you a good boy? (Dog kisses Redıs cheek) Thatıs a good boy, youıre mamas good boy yes 01:28:00 you areŠ.yes you are. Why donıt you stand up and look pretty huh? Why donıt you try to stand up and look pretty for me (lifts dog) cımon, standŠ.good, good boyŠ.cımon (jumpcut) but heıll eventually learn, to stay on the tableŠ(To dog) Huh? Right? My big boy, hmmmm? (Checks dogs ears) While Iım up here I just like to make sure I donıt got nothing going on in the ears like ear infection. Long orange uh long eared d-uh dogs are prone to, can be prone to ear problems. (To dog) Huh? Whadaya think? Whadaya think? You were a good boy, you know what that means? Oooooooo (Grabs treats) we get a little treat donıt we? We get a little treat if weıre a good boy. (Makes smooching sound) yeah, hey look at meŠ.hereŠ.good boy. Good boy. Youıre a good boy yes. And I always treat on the table. (jumpcut) (To dog) You canıt have this, you canıt have this no you canıt 01:29:00 oh (dog barks offscreen) oh somebodyıs rover huh? Somebodyıs getting some exercise huh? yeah (jumpcut) here we go, here we go huh sweetheart? Cımon buddy here we go. (Lifts dog off table) Good boy. Kennel up. (Dog goes into kennel) Oh what a good boy, what a good boy. 01:29:53 OFFSCREEN: Okay MAN: (outdoors) Okay. Uh, weıre down in Sutter Hall, PA. Itıs, uh, north of Harrisburg, uh, a little bit west of Harrisburg, 01:30:00 about 600 miles from home turf. Uh, down for the American Brittany Club specialty show. Uh, itıs, uh, weıre having theŠthe, and Iım gonna slaughter this, Knedane Kennel club is sponsoring the American Brittany Specialty on Saturday. Weıre having the, uh, agility match, uh, first all- Brittany agility match tomorrow, Friday afternoon. Uh, and thereıs been specialty shows by the Northern New Jersey, uh, Brittany Club and the Š another one. Canıt think of who the other one was, is, at the moment. Uh, but thereıs about a hundred and, bout a hundred and fifty Brittanys here right now, just Brittanys, uh, and thereıll be more rolling in today and tomorrow yet, uh, all in for just for the specialty. Uh 01:31:00 itıs kinda, kinda neat because, uh, this is gonna be the first all-Brittany agility match ever held anywhere, uh, and to be in conjunction with the Summer Specialty down here in, in PA, weıre really, really glad to be down here and, and, uh, looking forward to seeing a lot of friends that, that we havenıt seen in a while, and, uh, some weıve talked to on the phone and email and never met, so itıs kind of a neat thing to be down here. Uh, so thatıs where we are and whatŒs going on this weekend. OFFSCREEN: Are you competing this morning? MAN: No, weıre not competing this morning, we just, we just finished a twelve hour drive, weıre gonna sleep. (laughs) No, actually we, we probably wonıt, weıll probably go watch this morning. We have some friends that are competing, uh, this morning, uh, so weıll go watch this morning and, uh, work the dogs a little bit this afternoon. Theyıre, theyıre kinda restless from being in the car, and we really, you know, to be here a day earlier than we have to compete is good, so that they have a day to settle in, 01:32:00 uh, before we actually start competing. Uh, but theyıll be competing on Friday and Saturday. 002 03:01:45:19 SUSAN WEISS: (off camera, Reba and Owner kneeling near a parking lot after dog show.) Howıd your dog do? REBA AND OWNER: (kneeling near a parking lot after dog show.) Uh, it went great. We got first place in jumpers. Uh, she she ran wonderfully today. Uh, it it was a tough course. Uh, we we were concerned about one portion of the course she handled beautifully. Uh, and Iım Iım I canıt say enough about her. I mean sheıs just, sheıs come back you know you know from eight months she wasnıt running at all. She didnıt want to run. Uh, to where we are today and I just you know. Uh, I think itıs itıs great sheıs sheıs doing fantastic and uh, you know uh, she she everyone said you know she was going to come back and she has. So, so I I just canıt say enough. Iım so pleased with her um, you know. Uh, we came out of the ring you know and I I just looked at Ammie sittinı inside of the ring and I said did you see any faults and she said no and I just went YES! Cause you know, I mean I know that that was to be, to take part of it here is is history, to take first place is history. You know uh, itıs just great I canıt you know I guess there really, I guess thereıs really not the words to put into the way I feel about this dog and what sheıs done for me. SUSAN WEISS: (Asks question off camera, Reba and Owner kneeling near a parking lot after dog show.) ( Unintelligible). REBA AND OWNER: ( kneeling near a parking lot after dog show.) Most most people havenıt had animals. SUSAN WEISS: (off camera) Right, right. They donıt know animals. REBA AND OWNER: They donıt know animals. They they donıt know that these dogs they feed off of us and we feed off of them. Uh, they they donıt know uh, that this this you know dog Reba I can I can make her think Iım mad at her and put her right down to her belly crouched like (baby talk impersonation of what Reba the dog is thinking)"what are you doing?", just by my voice, okay. Um, and I can make her her up and and and bouncy with my voice and she can make me feel feel good just by coming over and licking a hand, just putting a head head on my lap. Uh, if Iım working in my office uh, sheıs laying under the desk. You know. Sheıs always with me. Uh, most of the time. SUSAN WEISS: (off camera) Except when youıre square dancing. REBA AND OWNER: Except when weıre square dancing. And uh, she she goes with us everywhere. (talking to Reba the dog) You like that girl? Uh, she goes with us everywhere. Uh, and so does Chewy. Uh, and I I canıt imagine right now I canıt imagine life without her. Uh, so yeah. (laugh) You know sheıs sheıs almost like a wife only not as demanding. SUSAN WEISS: (off camera) And youıre getting another one in the winter? 03:04:48:29 REBA AND OWNER: (kneeling near a parking lot after dog show.) Yes. 03:04:49:11 MAN WITH SHOW PARAPHENALIA: (standing next to table with prize ribbons) (Unintelligible)Š Agility Trial Summer Specialty, Jumpers with Weaves. (man holds up ribbons, cell phone ringing.) Itıs just all of the qualifiers get those, is that my phone ringing? Yes. Thatıs okay, Iıll pick it up in a minute. Um and uh, whoops! Those um, whenever you get a qualifying run you get one of these green ribbons (holds up ribbon). 03:05:29:15 Um, and then we got the blue ribbon for first place. And this is for first place. 3:05:56: WOMAN: (sitting with dog) Um, I think they have a passion for their hobby, and once you get bitten by a bug, you just go with it. I never would have predicted that I would have gotten this involved in anything. Murphyıs my first dog ever‹I didnıt have one growing up as a child. I got him years 3:06:56 ago and started off with basic obedience you know, get him under control, you know, so he was a good, mannerly dogŠjoined an obedience club and you know just kept going with that and started agility about 2 years ago because you know I heard these guys love it and itıs a great sport, and we even did stuff in confirmation‹the breed ring so ive gotten involved in those aspects Œcause last spring I did a little bit of hunt test. 3:06:46 WOMAN (nuzzles dog) well the easy part is that he hasnıt learned to use the microwave yet, so.. thatıs where he needs me for sure. Um, and I need him because I just recently started working out at my home full time. Regularly I was for many years and have a dog is somebody t talk to during th day when your by yourself, uhŠ he doesnıt talk back a lot but you know he could, if,could understand yıknow dogs, I hean he gives me, yıknow a sense of joy that I didnıt have. I always had good close friends but it gives me an activity to do on the weekends. Ive never been a big bar hopper, I went to Wheaton college which, if you know anything about geography itıs a dry school‹very, very strict. I like hanging out and talking with people, and dog people love hanging out and chatting. They love talking about their dogs, and they like hearing about your dog and I think itıs a natural mesh for my personality. Im very laid back, just like toŠlaid back but driven 3:08:00 im not a type A but im not a slacker. Ill go out on a limb here and I donıt know if anyone has talked to you about animal communicators, but I believe that they do work, there are certain people who are able to communicate via the energy the dogs give off and understand what their thoughts are. Dogs donıt have feelings like us, but, I , the little rescue station that was running around here, didnıt know anything about her but the animal communicator told s more about her and we were able to confirm later without having forknowledge and it fell into place. Theres a dog on the Brittany list that was probably gonna have to be put to sleepand all of the sudden it changed to this aggressive dog and completely out 3:09:56 of the ballpark. Vets done, neurological exam. 03.09.56.00 WOMAN: I should have taken my dog off the course because he wasnıt interested in me. Uh, the best part is you get when youıre working together is itıs a sense of teamwork. He has to complete the obstacles, but also has to focus on me to get that done. And to work with a dog that, who can sometimes have attention deficit disorder, uh, is a challenge, but also a joy when you put it together. Our first run we did, we took first place. To work, you know, so hard for something like that is just a great feeling. But I mean, like I said, the worst is when you donıt win, but I think everybody always wants to win, but feel good about your dog and friends and youıre happier, it was worth a try. WOMAN: - most kindly and humanly tell them what you expect of them, it can be in a gentle but calm way. Iım not against replacing a dog or giving them correction. But everything is giving them a buzz, itıs none of this hanging by the chain, you know, replace them to whatever the desired activity is. And if you treat them like that then they, in kind, return that. And even sometimes, even if they donıt give you that, they still love you unconditionally. There are dogs that get beaten by two by fours and they still come back hoping that that person has changed for the day, that theyıre going to be, going to give them a kind word even if they are the meanest owners. So I think the bond is really fulfilled there when focused on your animal, just a great tempered owner. You can get mad at them. Have I gotten mad at him? Yes, but I never harmed him physically. Itıs just more 03.11.55.00 of a raised voice and a collar check. 03.12.15.00 WOMAN: -and Westyıs, when I started in Westyıs forty some years ago. This Westyıs were other breeds, and all other breeds, but I can show you catalogues when I was a kid, I was the only owner in the entire terrier group that my parents always had to have (inaudible). (woman off-screen inaudible) It is everywhere, you either love it, and you have fun. Usually we carrier a cooler with some wine in the places youıre allowed to. No Iım serious, weıre usually under a tent, it was just an accident that this showed up. Seriously, we just sit there with friends, we donıt know the people and we make new friends. But after all these years were going back to what we did originally. Because weıve had our dogs have handlers and 03.13.10.00 everything. 03.19.30.00 DARLA: Bark, bark, bark, whimper. OWNER: Sheıs not too sure about this. Go look at it, come on. Come on over here and look at it. Come on, smell it. Come on Darla, ya wuss. TEEN GIRL (to Owner): Is that your dog? OWNER: Yes. TEEN GIRL: Did you show her already? OWNER: Not yet. TEEN GIRL: Awe. OWNER (to Darla): He wants to get your 03.20.04.00 picture, you donıt need to be up on me. 3:20:15:00 WOMAN: (Talking to dog) Elvis Want a TreatŠŠ.Think you want to sit up, sit up , sit upŠŠ can you wave. What are you thinking? Think you might want to sit upŠŠ.oh. Sit down. Do you want to lay down, down , down, good boyŠŠroll over, good dog . Good dog. ( Dog rolls over) 3:22:25:00 SHERI: (Dog in hand) my extra time , my husband suggested I get into dogs more. And as we looked around we decided it was the terrier we wanted to have because of there small size and are easy to trainŠŠŠI donıt really know what led us to the (inaudible) but we like the (inaudible) as far as there looks. We got our first one at a pet store as everyone probably does you know, then we decided I wanted to get into the show part of it. To do that you need good bloodline quality, so we aquired our first good show dog. We got into the showing and realized there is more to this than showing a dog , so that when the education part came inŠŠŠ..bloodlines, what you getŠŠŠ.when we started showing and winning, all new areas open up for you, you start recognizing breeding after you get into good breeding ŠŠŠ.people start recognizing your type of dog. Now, after being in it 15 years , we have our type of dog. CAMERA WOMAN: Whatıs that type of dog called? SHERI: our breed is (inaudible) terrier. CAMERA WOMAN: And what is your last name? SHERI: Eagleson CAMERA WOMAN: So this is an Eagleson Terrier? SHERI: No, what you do is you pick a kennel name, a lot of people will use their first name take any kind of cute name and that what your breeding is recognized, by your kennel name, our kennel name is mine and my husbands name together, cherbo, so when you go into the ring with a good dog , they recognize the dog is a cherbo. CAMERA WOMAN: How many dogs do you have with you today? SHERI: Well we have our whole kennel , which is 12 3:27:25:00 HANDLER: (tries to contain dog) I mean I have one of my own back there but its not a Brittany, itıs a boston terrier, I haveŠ.have 20 dogs on my own but you know, I just handle dogs. He is not one of my own,, so I can answer any questions as far as involvment. CAMERA WOMAN: (muffled) I think that would be interesting ya. HANDLER: (interrupting woman) but I meanŠŠ..itsŠŠyou know. I wanted to foreworn you. CAMERA WOMAN: Thank you , it will make me frame my questions a little bit different. HANDLER: because I mean , itıs the same situation , you still have to bond with the dog CAMERA WOMAN: ya HANDLER: You know what I mean because they are,,,,,,,,you know I have to show the dog so I have to bong with them CAMERA WOMAN: Right HANDLER: Like this dog here, Iıve never shown him before , so I took him like last week, he stayed at my house for a week, you know, his first show was yesterday soŠknow what I mean Š(muffled) CAMERA WOMAN: Are you going? 03:28:00 HANDLER 115: You still have to bond with them, you know like this dog here, I never showed him before. Like last week he stayed at my house, and this was his first show yesterday. So, you know what I mean he has to get to know everything so. But, you know thatıs the way he basically you know with the handler and stuff. A lot of times the dog might already be good if itıs already been trained by the owner and that kind of stuff. You can usually maybe step in and maybe do o.k. but a lot of times the handlers have to to take him, keep him for a week or so you know work with dog so the dog gets to know him. And then you know you can see heıs very happy, heıs not depressed. Being with me or anything. GIRL: Are the owners here? 115: No. No. Sheıs in ill health, thatıs why she hires a handler. GIRL: How did you get into handling dogs? 115: Well, twenty years ago I started myself with Great Danes and Boston Terriers and bred, started showing my own dogs, basically friends of mine would ask me to handle their dogs and stuff and thatıs basically how I started. GIRL: Did you have a Great Dane? 115: Yeah, I had five at one time. GIRL: Do you have one right now? 115: Yeah I have one at home. GIRL: Whereıs home? 115: Pittsburgh, Aliquippa, Pennsylvania. GIRL: Do you have a favorite story about this dog? 115: This dog, a I donıt know this dog here, heıs a pretty nice dog. You know what I mean for not having him. I took him last week on Friday, was the first time Iıve taken or had the dog. I went for a show over the weekend, he was not entered, I just took him with me so he would get use to the situation and being away 03:30:00 from home because he was never away home before and he is only six and a half months old. So, you know he is subject a lot of things. Something right now would affect him badly in a negative way he would remember that, always. You know what I mean? So that is something you have to make a very pleasant experience for him. Last week I didnıt have a lot of dogs to show when I went. So, I took him with me we walked around and it was a very good positive experience for him and I think thatıs why heıs so happy. You know, because he had a good experience so far with me and you know what I mean heıs happy. Now if I last weekend something would have happened say if we were at the show and another dog would have come after him and if he would have had a very bad experience at the show it would have hurt him you know it would take him probably five or six months to get him out of that were he wouldnıt be happy. Every time we went to show he would sort of be in that frame of mind were he would be worried about another dog coming after him, you know. Thatıs very impressionable at a young age, older dogs are not so bad, but you know when you have a younger dog itıs something you have to be careful of cause it is very impressionable with the dog. GIRL: Right, so you are a professional handler. 115: Yeah. GIRL: So, you spend your full time efforts. 115: I donıt have, I do have a full time job, but I do this as it is a business for me. I mean do it as a business. I mean I have a kennel business as a handler so, do do it I go almost every weekend and once in while Iıll take a weekend off when I need it. You know. Work five days a week and then doing this every weekend and I get I use 03:32:00 my vacation, like this weekend here is five days for me Œcause I started yesterday. 3:32:24:18 HANDLER: (sitting holding his dog talking to the interviewer about his particular breed of dog.) I get vacation-I take my vacation one day at a time. Itıs usually like this weekend. I take three days off and Iım off so thatıs. (Interview continues) 3:32:35:07 LADY: (asking question off camera.) Do you ever try to read a dogs thoughts? (Off camera) 3:32:37:14 HANDLER: (sitting holding his god talking to the interviewer.) Oh yeah, you have to, you have to know how a dogs feeling. You have to be able to read that in his eyes and how he how he reacts to things, else youıll never make it with a handler and that thereıs so many of them anyone can take a dog go out there and stack em and try to train em but if you canıt read what the dog is thinking or how heıs reacting to your touch and how the dog feel youıll never-you know you wonıt get the pos you need from a good dog. You know when you show a dog you want that dog to have a certain pos about it. You know any dog can go and stand like a statue and just stand there and not move and not have any animation or anything like that. And that dog and he might win sometimes but overall the dog that goes out there and performs and puts on a performance as a show dog‹thatıs the dog thatıs going to win on a regular basis-you know. (Interview continues) 3:33:34:19 LADY: (asking question off camera.) What do you think heıs thinking right now? (Off camera) 3:33:36:11 HANDLER: (sitting holding his dog talking to the interviewer.) So far, well heıs a very busy puppy heıs watching everything that guy thatıs out there walking his dog. Heıs watching everything around him and thatıs one thing out Brittanyıs, they do that cause they are, you know, a hunting dog. So thatıs what they are trained to look and watch and you know thatıs instinct for them you know. When you have a breed like that it is instinct. I mean that is breedantly‹it is not something-I mean you train em to a point but it is not something that you know, I mean they go out there look and watch and I mean if you see. I was showing, Iıll tell you a little story, I was showing Memorial Day weekend, I was up in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Ok, I had another Brittany that performs the same lady but an older female. And we were in the ring and at the time, and uh two birds come flying in the ring. Now these two birds were chasing each other around the ring. And these Brittanyıs all just stood there like, I mean they all just stood there and a point like just looking. Oh, it was a such wonderful thing to see that, I mean cause figure these are dogs that arenıt lot of them arenıt normally field dogs or used to that. But, thatıs an instinct in them, you know thatıs what they want and thatıs what theyıre looking for all the time. You know, it was so nice cause you see all those dogs standing there. You know, to per family and they stack themselves perfect and they go out there- intense looking at these birds watching. (interview continues) 3:35:09:02 LADY: (asking question off camera.) But nobody went after them? (off camera) 3:35:10:04 HANDLER: (sitting holding his dog talking to the interviewer.) Nobody went after them, and thatıs not what they are supposed to do. Not unless theyıre told to flush the dog. You know, they basically all stood there and pointed you know watching the bird. You know, actually the one bird went over and sat on the ring fence around the outside and had to go and chase him away cause it would not leave it would just stand there and none of the dogs would behave because they were all content on that bird. You know, so they had to go and chase the bird away for everyone-get back to showing. But it was a pretty neat story; they are very intense dog when it comes to that. (Interview continues) 3:35:44:00 LADY: (asking question off camera.) Now tell me how you read the dogs feeling? (Off camera) 3:35:46:14 HANDLER: (sitting holding his dog talking to the interviewer.) You have to watch their eyes and their reactions. You know, I mean, when you are showing a dog you have to watch. Oh, I mean, you have to give a little harsh correction or something if heıs doing something wrong you could tell in the way he reacts to it if it was to harsh, you know what I mean. You have to learn to read that feeling. Itıs hard for some people to do that cause itıs not like a, itıs just like a human being, I mean you have to learn to read human beings emotions and itıs similar. Very similar because itıs, itıs just an expression and how they hold their ears or how they hold their head or mouth. You know, you learn to read that on a dog. You know, what they do with their tail or what you know itıs very important, you 3:36:33:17 know on a dog and how they react. (Interview continues) 03:36:25 HOLDER: (sitting outside on a bench petting a dog) You learn to read that on a dog, you know, what they do with their tail, and what they, you know, and its very important, you know, on a dog how they react, you know. And you have to learn to read that information. You know you learn to do it as a habit and thatıs basically what I try to, I mean Iıve done, I mean, 23 years Iıve been doing this so itıs more of a habit for me now than it is work to try to do that, you know, cause I can, when I walk up to the dog I can look in his eyes almost and tell if heıs going to be a friendly dog or not. You can almost tell that instantly, you know. Britneys are not on a whole, youıll never see a Britney give you a look of maybeŠ.scared intent. You know, uh, and thatıs the worst kind you want is andŠ.if you walk up to a dog and you see, like, a scared look in their eyes thatıs probably the worst because youıre gonna have a fear biter. thatıs what, you know, thatıs what, you know, thatıs what youıre worried about, itıs 03:37:26 the dog thatıs viscous, youıll know that as soon as you come close to that dog heıs vicious. But a dog that is a fear biter because of the intensity in his eyes, those are the ones that catch peopleŠ.without knowing. Because you can be standing next to that dog and the dog wonıt be showing any signs of aggression and heıll just walk up and bite. And thatıs what you have to be careful of. 23 years Iıve been doing this I was bit once. And that was basically, it wasŠ.it was more, I canıt say it was my fault but, I mean, the dog shouldıve probably never done it but what had happened it was storming that day, the wind was blowing in the dogıs face, the dog, it was a younger dog. It wasnıt a Britney, it was a Great Dane (laughs). But uhŠand the dog started backing out of its collar and I didnıt want him to get loose so I grabbed his face and when I grabbed his face he bit me. You know, he was just scared, you know, soŠbut I got the lead back on his head and tried to calm him down and everything and he was fine I took him back over to the owners and told them to calm him down (dog whimpers) you know, cause he was just scared. 03:38:37 INTERVIWER: Is it common for the owner to come with you? HANDLER: Ah, it is sometimes but, as a handler, you know not so much. You know a lot of owners do go, but usually the owners that go show their own dogs. Not too many owners go and donıtŠcause its expensive, you know, you figure if youıre paying a handler and you go and have to pay for a hotel and food and everything else its almost more reasonable to send a dog with a handler than it is to show your dog yourself. 03:39:10 INTERVIWER: Can I ask you how much youŠ HANDLER: (interrupts) uhŠ INTERVIWER: Charge? HANDLER: Um, Iım like, since I donıt do this as a full time job Iım reasonable. I charge $40 a show and I charge $10 to carry the dog with me you know for careŠ.(continues but gets interrupted) INTERVIWER: Per day? 03:39:25 HANDLER: Per day, yeah. Thatıs myŠ.standard fee, yeah. Most handlers right now who do this as a full time job are gonna be in the area of $55 to $60 a show plus expenses. 03:39:41 INTERVIWER: Let me ask you, how do you feel when the dog you are showing wins? HANDLER: Oh I feel good, I feel good. You know, what I want, what attitude I try to take toward that, if I donıt win with my clients dogs Iım not gonna have a client for long. You know thatıs the important part. And, you know, to keep a client is important. You know if you have a happy client you got a customer forever. You know thatıs the way you have to look at it, I mean, so I want my dog to win more than anything. Any dog Iım showing. Thatıs why Iım here. I mean, I could say oh Iım here, I mean, this is a puppy. I donıt expect him to go out there and beat all these 03:40:25 big adult dogs. 3:40:25 BRITTANY GUY: Beat all these adult dogs. This is a very nice puppy heıs, very nice. Heıs not as well trained as Iıd like him to be. But, heıs here for that reason, heıs here for the experience. I think he has the capability of winning. If he would go in the ring and surprisingly behave himself heıd probably do well, he would, he would probably have that capability of winning. Ha, you know and Iım here for that reason. I mean, hopefully when I go into a ring and heıll work Œem outside the ring and he does ok, but you just. You know. With a puppy you donıt want go in a ring and come down and make him stand there like a statue. Iıd rather him be happy. You know, if he looses, cause he miss behaves, then itıs ok, because heıs happy. Thatıs important to me. Iıd rather have him a happy dog, because as I say before that attitude ruins everything. When he gets to be a year and half old if he goes out there and shows like a mill ion bucks, because heıs happy. You know. Not because when he was six months old I made him stand there like a statue and do what he was told to do, you know. And thatıs my attitude towards it. You know, I mean thereıs time you go out there and puppies. Iıve seen puppies show beautiful. You know and just behave great and have a good attitude and everything. But thatıs you know, thatıs the dog. I mean, this is a, you know a little bit hyper dog. You know, and you know, hey. Iıd rather him be happy, then to be a statue and not be happy. Yuppie! QUESTIONER: Um, How many dogs so you have at home? BRITTANY GUY: Myself, I have about twenty. QUESTIONER: Twenty! BRITTANY GUY: Ya, Ya. QUESTIONER: How do you know all their names? BRITTANY GUY: Oh, thatıs easy, Ha! QUESTIONER: Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! BRITTANY GUY: Thatıs easy, but itıs mostly all Boston Terriers, the little ones. QUESTIONER: Are Boston Terriers, the ones that kinda have pushed in noses. BRITTANY GUY: Ya. QUESTIONER: and pointed ears. BRITTANY GUY: Ya. QUESTIONER: Ya. BRITTANY GUY: They can crop, uncropped ears on Boston Terriers. QUESTIONER: So, are you breeding now? BRITTANY GUY: Yes, I breed Boston Terriers. We were, me and my wife were number one breeders in the country in 95-96. I think we were number... 3 in 97, 98. Last year 99 we were number two. So, weıve done real well with Boston Terriers. QUESTIONER: (mumbled) Iıd say so. BRITTANY GUY: Hum, Ha! QUESTIONER: Sounds great. BRITTANY GUY: Ha, so, so. QUESTIONER: Well, tell me something extraordinary about one of your Boston Terriers. BRITTANY GUY: Hum.. QUESTIONER: Whoıs extraordinary and why? Why, why is the breeding extraordinary? BRITTANY GUY: (His dog yawns) Hum, well Boston Terriers are really good house dogs, lap dogs, theyıre a really good dog all around as far as for home type things. You know. For a house dog. Just great! Gre žat with kids they are a sturdy dog. Theyıre alot like a toy, that might be a little finer boned and kind of stuff. BRITTANY GUY: (His dog yawns) Hum, I find them to be very, good temperamented mostly over, over all. Very few Boston Terriers have I seen with bad temperaments. Hum, and Iıd say that, Hum, most myself like my Boston Terriers. I have one dog as I campaigned as his champion, he ended up being, Hum number seven in the country in Boston Terriers. Ya, which is pretty good, I mean, he, he was a nice dog heıs one we breeded ourselves and I showed him myself, so you know thatıs more of a thrill for us. You know. We enjoy that and ha, at that time. When we were showing him Purina offered us sort of a sponsorship. Sort of, he was actually on Purina's adds and some of Purina's adds and stuff, at that time. This was back, probably back in 95. So, ya. He, hee. It was nice, that was a good feeling. I mean, you know. We went and had a photo shoot with Œem for Purina. You know. 03:44:25:00 HANDLER: Handler is seated holding Chip, a Brittany show dog. They had him in one of their ads in magazines and stuff. So that was real nice. INTERVIEWER: Thatıs amazing. HANDLER: So, yea it was a good thing, you know? INTERVIEWER: Uh huh. HANDLER: That was probably one of the nicer things. I mean, Iıve had a lot of nice dogs that have won real well. I mean, Iıve taken dogs in one weekend and finished almost in one weekend. You know, I mean, itıs a real nice feeling. 03:45:00:00 HANDLER: You know if when theyıre your own dogs and youıve bred them, and you know youıve bred good dogs when everyone recognizes them, and you can do that, you know? Cus it doesnıt happen that often that you can go out and win three to four majors in a weekend. You know, the points and the weekend? Cus it usually never happens that way. Like here, this Brittany weekend. Now if the same dog won everyday itıd be absolutely amazing. Cus everybody has different tastes, every judge. You know, if you breed a dog that every judge really finds outstanding, to give them that points, everyday, like that is, you know, to me that is, something really nice. INTERVIEWER: Excellent. Ok, well, I think Iıve asked everything that I wanted to ask. Itıs a very interesting angle betweenŠ. HANDLER: The handler and the dogs. INTERVIEWER: The handler and the dogs andŠ. HANDLER: Not just so much the breeder, you know? The breeders and that are a little different. Like you know the lady that owns her‹him‹she owns all three of the ones Iım showing this weekend. INTERVIEWER: Whatıs his name? HANDLER: Chip. INTERVIEWER: Chip. 03:46:00:00 HANDLER: She owns all three of the ones Iım showing this weekend. But, you know, like most of these people, theyıll do fieldwork, and they do, you know‹they have a different avenue, and I donıt do that. I just do confirmation shows you know? INTERVIEWER: And Chip is the one you showed this morning? HANDLER: Yes. He took second in class. INTERVIEWER: He took second? HANDLER: Yea. INTERVIEWER: Oh thatıs great. HANDLER: (to dog) Yea, he took second. INTERVIEWER: Is that why she called you up there one at a time? And the person she called first, took first? HANDLER: Yea, yea. INTERVIEWER: Ooohhhh. Very good, I didnıt know that. HANDLER: Yea, he did very well, you know, for his second show and everything. Heıs still a little, like I said, heıs still a little wild when I move him. Heıs not quiteŠ (to dog) Quit! Chip! Cımon. Heıs still a little wild. See this is a good attitude for me. 03:47:00:00 HANDLER: (to dog) Stand. Ahhh, stand. See you want that attitude to happen. See how he puts his ears up when he stands. 03:47:15:00 HANDLER: SoŠ good boy. See? Good boy. 03;53;10;00 Question: How did you get into this? GROOMER: (sitting in back of truck with Britteny) Well, Iıve always had a love for animals, ever since I was a child, but, you donıt get an opportunity always to get involved with animals. Like for example, horses, you have to have the property to have them. And different things like that. Iıve always enjoyed dogs, but, you know, you go to school, you go to college, and then you get a job and you have a career, and itıs always not a good idea to get a dog and just have it sitting around in your house if you are busy working a lot. So finally things change, you know how change happens in your life, and that, and finally it was time for me to decide to get a dog. And I got a dog. I actually researched the breeds, I didnıt just go out and get one. I was actually looking for a particular size, and a particular amount of coat. Because of the maintenance and stuff like that. And then I enjoyed the sporting breed dogs you know, I liked the hunting dogs. So I decided to get a Britteny and I happened to know someone who had some and I liked the idea of the dog thatıs in this 35 ­40 pound range. You can have two in your home. Itıs not like, I mean, a lot of people do have dogs that weigh close to a hundred pounds or over a hundred pounds in their house, I just didnıt particularly want that. So I think that, what you particularly want out of a dog, you have to identify what you want out of a dog. And then do a little research, and donıt just buy one out of the paper or from someone who breeds in the back yard. 03;54;45;00 Question: how many do you have GROOMER: I have three 03;54;50;00 Question: Tell me a favorite story GROOMER: OK, my favorite one, my old girl, I call her. And I was going for an obedience title. And we were going through a pattern, the judge asked you to go through a pattern. So, the dog is off of leash it has to be trained to stay in heel position off of leash, which she was doing. And I had lost sight of her out of the corner of my eye. And I just kept saying, "I hope sheıs there, I hope sheıs there" you know. And finally, I hear the judge go "mamm, mamm,". And I kind of look around and she says "do you want to get your dog". And my dog had left my side, gone out of the ring, there was a man in a folding chair outside the ring with a little package of nachos and that liquid cheese. And heıs going uhhh uhh uhh. And sheıs up in his lap trying to get the nachos and everybody was just laughing, it was so funny, it was just a riot. Thatıs one of my favorite ones. Sheıs a character. 03:55;48;26 GROOMER: Yeah, you try to figure out what theyıre thinking by their emotion that theyıre showing you at that time. 03;55;57;26 Question: Tell me something that your dog does for you, in otherwords, is it a symbiotic relationship? GROOMER: You know it is, it really is. One of the reasons that I started to compete with my dogs was because I needed something to do besides work all the time. And I wanted to be able to redirect my own energies and have a balance. So, thatıs why I started to compete. And, just actually sort of stumbled into it. Went to a local pet store that had an obedience class, and found out that I kind of liked it. And again, I started to talk to people and I started to come to shows and watch what was going on. So, (stuttering) Itıs an emotional feeling. But then sometimes it can be a little bittersweet because itıs like well, itıs over now. 03;56;53;28 Question: How do you feel when your dog loses? GROOMER: You know, I donıt, I really, the only thing I say to myself when my dog loses is how was the dogıs performance? Was there anything that I needed to work on to improve? Like for example for puppies, like this, you donıt have any other choice but to come and pay your dues, going into the ring, and getting them used to it. So you have to be realistic about losing. Sometimes, you know, I have to admit, Iıve walked out of the ring saying, how did I lose to maybe, some of the other animals that were in the ring at that time, you know but, again, itıs the judgeıs opinion, that judgeıs opinion on that day.