EDITING THE DOCUMENTARY CLASS
INSTRUCTOR: PETER THOMPSON











TRANSCRIPT
FOR THE 
"SOUTH LOOP" PROJECT



(revised 10/24/01)


























001 
01:00:37:00	Anarchists Time Lapse Store Front.

01:00:53:00	Interview with Anarchist at Store Front
I: Tell me about what, uh, your part in this is?
A: Sure, um, I've been organizing the committee organizing 
	core section and,
01:01:00:00     uh, to do that we've recruited a large number of volunteer facilitators and 
put together, uh, a participant work book that will be used during the 
week.
I: Cool, uh, what is the, what is the, first, what is the workbook?
A: Sure, um, what we've done is actually take a lot of activities that people 
do in workshops, um, small group activities and put them all in a single, 
uh, workbook so we don't have to go day by day handing out sheets of 
paper wasting time during our sessions. It also includes lots of information 
about what's going on the agenda, uh, what some of the games we use to 
open, who our presenters are as facilitators and also who are, uh, resource 
people that are coming in from out of town are, so it includes in addition 
to that we also have some articles on the organizing that are resource 
people did and those are included in the packet as well.
I: Okay, from what I understand you are one of the most organized 
presences?
	A:  Well we're the community organizing section, we're supposed to be 
organized, if we weren't organized then I guess we werenıt doing our jobs. 
But, um, I mean the other sections will do well, y'know, in their own way. 
I think it's going to be good 
01:02:00:00     it's just that different sections will have different takes on how to, get 
prepared for it.
I: So, uh, what is lacking in, like, the other conventions which brought you 
to have your own? Kind of...
A: Uh, you mean the Democratic National Convention.
I: Yeah.
                        A: Sure, well...I think, uh, most of the people recognize that, that the 
Democratic National Convention, the Republican National Convention, 
the Olympics and even some of the other political conventions happening 
in Chicago don't necessarily um, address the fundamental issues at stake in 
in our society or as people that, um, some of the stuff that we want to 
address is how to build a, a movement, a strong revolutionary movement, 
how to use organizing techniques, community organizing techniques, 
either to build a movement or in neighborhoods and also how to use 
collectives, co-operatives and alternative economics to uh form the basis, 
the foundation for a new society. So, no one else is really addressing that. 
I mean a lot of the things that we talk about are counter to what a lot of 
people in the Democratic National Convention, the delegates, believe that 
should be happening.  Um, we are very in favor of remŠ 
01:03:00:00     yıknow reducing removing capitalism and replacing it with a co-operative 
system. And doing it now instead of waiting for some mythical future, 
revolutionary society, that we can begin doing the work of revolution now 
and what this conference is is to get together as a chance to start talking 
about that um at a very serious level with a lot of anti-authoritarians, 
anarchists, and other activists.
I: So there are a lot of people like (mumble) coming in from all over ?
A: Oh there's people coming from all over the United States, and Canada, 
and probably a few from farther places than that. So, we're expecting a 
really large number of people.
I: Great. So, um...[Undecipherable, loud car noise].
A: I mean, always, always the discussions are important and I think as 
long as there is a dialogue happening in the Democratic National 
Convention that's when it's positive. It's when you get hard rigid platforms 
that can't be changed, when there's individuals 
01:04:00:00     that stand in the place of  groups being able to decide for themselves what 
the issues are and what the resolutions of those issues should be that's 
when you have a problem. I think the Democrats, y'know, are just a 
different side of the coin from the Republicans. That they represent a 
certain y'know, conservative liberalism that doesn't want to change much 
beyond the status quo. And that the Republicans also demonstrate a 
similar, um, type of ethic. And we are really going at it with a, with a, a, 
with a.. we're trying to get at a basis for what the problems are and try to 
come up with solutions that address those. So, issues of oppression , um, 
issues of capitalism, y'know, other forms of domination. We want to see if 
we can address those on a community level, uh, a community of affinity or 
a geographical community. If we can build a movement that connects 
different struggles even if we don't agree with each other a hundred 
percent we're all apart of the same movement, and we should act like that, 
and that we should be at a form that dual power, power for ourselves and 
power against...[Undecipherable, loud car noise].
01:05:00:00	I: [Undecipherable, loud car noise].
A: Right...Monster truck...um, to do, to use the philosophy of dual power, 
where we're building up our own power by forming our own housing co-
ops and alternative institutions. But also fighting the dominant structure, 
y'know, the hierarchical power that says that we have to conform to a 
certain society and act within that certain society.
I: So, uh, there's going to be a lot of things going on here and a lot of 
energy, but how do, how do you think, um..., it will effect people from the 
outside, I mean the media is...
A: Right.
I: Carrying the Democratic National Convention and it's like a big hoopla.
A: Right, well what we hope to get out of this is a lot of good trained 
activists on a similar page, y'know, that these are a lot of people that, that 
work in the same networks and the idea is that maybe we can come 
together and do a better job of communicating with each other and sharing 
information or resources to create a stronger movement or to build a 
stronger movement. And in that sense I think the act of resistance            
01:06:00:00     is going to be extremely positive. That there will be a ripple effect beyond 
the five hundred or a thousand people that come to our event. That those 
people will take the skills and knowledge that they learned and share it 
back where they came from, the communities they participate in.
I: Um, so also you're going to have some fun right? I mean at the DNCŠ
A: Right.
I: ...they have fun.
A: Yeah, right, codified fun.
I: I meanŠ
A: Oh yeah, I mean, any movement that doesnıt  recognize a social aspect 
and cultural aspect to it is not going to be successful. And I think we, we 
recognize that as well, as individuals, and as groups and as part of a 
movement. That, we have, uh bike rides and, uh, film and video showings, 
dance parties, um, informal get togethers, music, y know that's like,like 
that's like happening right now. And that forms, y'know, the real work of 
the act of 
resistance is not in the meetings themselves but in the interactions of the 
people outside of those structured environments. That the relationships 
that people build within those environments will create yıknow the future 
society that we really hope for.
01:07:00:00	I: You're going to have the parade on the...[Undecipherable, loud car 
noise].
A: Right. Those, those are some of the events I think during the 
Democratic National Convention that as the Autonomous Zone or the act 
of resistance, we're not sponsoring any demonstrations, that we're weıre 
participating in a puppet parade on the 29th that's going to be incredible. 
Um, a number of talented people in Chicago and across the country, 
including Wise Fools, Puppet Intervention Theatre, um, has prepared an 
enormous puppet show with huge twenty foot puppets and some of the 
other artwork done at the Propaganda Gallery and the Festival of the 
Oppressed is just going to showcase the deep level of, uh, culture y know 
that is involved in the anarchist and the associated movements.
I:  Uh I lost my train of thoughtŠCool, um, okay you're not, you're not 
doing any, like, uh, protests, right, uh...
A: Right.
I: You're not going to any marches. Do you have anything to say about 
that, that ah, sectioned off protest system?
	A: Right, the protest pit system, 
01:08:00:00     and then the, uh, major legal victory to actually have another mini protest 
pit next to the delegates, with like twenty individuals a day or per 
demonstration. I mean, that's like, yıknow taking free speech and saying, 
"Yeah, free speech but only when I say it's okay and in this format."  I 
mean they, uh, they used, uh, security concerns and all that kind of stuff 
and I think you'll see that more and more as...[Undecipherable, loud car 
noise].
I: Can you say that again.
A: Sure. I think you'll see security, the question of security used more and 
more to tighten down on people's free speech. That, y'know, uh, at, a lot of 
the previous conventions there hasn't been violence but the people use the 
threat of violence or terrorism and such to, um, to prevent people from 
expressing their beliefs. And even although, y'know, I think there's a 
certain sense, at least by myself, that a lot of the protest people have 
planned anyway aren't necessarily as challenging as they could be. That 
people are going out there to just showcase an idea. And I think at this 
point in time, the mid-nineties, going towards the, uh, next century that we 
have to do more than just showcase oppossitional ideas. We have to, 
number one, 
	prove that our ideas can work, 
01:09:00:00     but also that, that our protests present a real threat to the system, y'know.
I: It seems sort of like a...[Undecipherable, loud car noise].
A: Right.
I: ...[Undecipherable, loud car noise].
A: Right.
I: ...[Undecipherable, loud car noise]...and do you feel Chicago has any, 
uh, sense of, uh, ...[Undecipherable, loud car noise].
A: Right.
I: ...do you think it's still there?
A: I mean, I think a lot of people are gonna be playing up the 1968 events 
and, uh, and I...and I don't think it's out of the out of the case to think that 
a lot of stuff like that won't happen. I mean, you can't keep protest at such 
a limiting manner and not expect something else to happen and I don't 
think that's something we're going to be responsible for but I think just 
people being angry about issues is going to create, um, that the city hasn't 
planned for that. And that somehow those things find ways of expression 
that the city's just not ready for.
                        I: So, what are your best hopes? I mean, uh, community wise, and
01:10:00:00     information wise,,, and uh...
A: Sure.
I: ...and things just coming together. What do you think , uh...
A: Well hopefully there will continuing projects. That this isn't just a one-
time conference talking about these issues. But that we also continue the 
discussions and develop some projects or organizations or what not, that 
will continue these discussions. So, collectives and Co-op's and alternative 
economics or maybe some organizations or projects that will get 
developed that will that will increase the number of cooperatives that are 
developed in this country. That you, that the word cooperation becomes a 
household word and that these people are in one way to start that 
happening. That at community organizing we are going to be talking about 
people getting involved in their neighborhoods, but also in their projects 
and do more organizing and increasing the capacity of people around them 
to effect change. Um, and I think that's going to have long term effects. 
And building revolutionary movements is going to, y'know, connect us 
with the other radical movements that are out there and give us a strategy 
for relating to them and, y'know, a way to cohesively come together on 
issues of importance across the country. So I think that this is a really 
01:11:00:00     good place for these  
	discussions to happen. Itıs a good time to bring it up with the convention 
and the election year coming up. But that I expect large anarchists or 
activists and events like this to happen more and more in the future and 
not just have, um, primarily social events, but social events with a 
purpose, with a strategy set out.
I: Alright Dan, I think that...

01:11:21:00	Anarchist Street and Store Front. Trucks and cars goes by the store

01:12:00:00	Anarchist Street and Store Front. Continues 

01:12:15:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:13:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:14:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:15:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:16:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:17:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

01:17:24:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.Policemen on horses.

01:17:43:00	Weird Masked police character to parade.

01:18:00:00	Puppet Parade/Festival of the Oppressed.

001-Scene B

01:18:48:00	Treeman and Gerrardo Walk to Camera.

01:19:00:00	Treeman and Gerrardo Walk to Camera.

01:19:08:00	S: Hi Treeman.
	T: Hi.
	S: If you don't mind just, just right over here. That'd be, that'd be fine. 
Okay? 
T: Š..Unclear to what he says
S: And you're welcome.
	T: Thank you, thank you very much.
	S: Just stay right there...
	
01:19:32:00	Reporter talks to Treeman.
	R1: Alright. Hi, where's your handout? Are you related to George 
Bush?[Laughter]
	T: Not now, never at all.
	R2: That's not Bill Plant is it?
	R1: [Laughs] Who are you guys with?
	C: Ah, an independent documentary.

1:20:00:00	Reporter talks to Treeman.

R1: Alright. We gave Treeman a shot yesterday on the Six O' Clock news.
	R2: Who?
	R1: We put Treeman on last night.
	R2: Oh, did you. Did you recommend Ortho 101010?
	R1: Ha, nitrogen in the fall. Right?
	C: So was he pretty popular?
	R1: I don't know, I don't know. I'm not sure he's had such an impact yet.
	C: So whats gonna give him a big impact?
	R1: Not for me to judge. I can tell you if it happens though.[To someone off 
camera] Get me a shot of these guys too.
	C: And where are you from?
	R1: WBBN-TV. Here in Chicago. 

1:21:00:00	Gerrardo talks to unidentified woman and camera.
		
G: Right. OK
	W: [Undecipherable]...what's your name?
	G: Gerrardo. And here is my card
	W: Okay.
	G: And my number's 435-4548.
	W: Okay, so I'll be off tomorrow, I'm running out of town, but uh feel free 
to give me a call.
	G: Fantastic.
	W: Okay
	G:  Alright.  Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.
	[Undecipherable]...school. She works with uh, she's trying to get, ah, the 
truancy on homeless kids back into school. Which is fantastic cause, ah, 
cause right now there's a court case in where they're trying to get homeless 
children who move around a lot situated in one school or, like, a hassle free, 
	a hassle free when they get into the school. 
01:22:00:00    And what she's offering is, is fantastic. Saying that we want to work on 
getting homeless children in school and keep them in school. That's 
fantastic, so we served a dual purpose today. One, a connection with, with 
the public schools on trying to work with homeless children and, two, 
bothering Daley.
	W: Does he seem annoyed by you guys?
	G: Yeah, he seems bothered.
	W: What does he do...[Indecipherable]?
	G: Um, y'know, he...he gets red. I mean, he's always red so it's kinda of hard 
to tell when he's not. But, ah, but ah, he's just like "yeah, yeah," and tries to 
wave you, wave us off. But yesterday was particularily good cause we, we 
were asking the tough questions, y'know. If you're saying that there is a 
mixed income community in Cabrini Green and that's what you want, 
y'know, why not in your community. He didn't respond and he just started 
walking quicker and just like,yıknow  "get out of my way" sort of  thing. So, 
so once the 
01:23:00:00	questions get tougher, yıknow he starts...he starts walking away quicker and 
security starts pushing and moving people out of the way. "Excuse me, 
excuse me," and Bam in the car and he's gone.
	C: But you got to speak to him yesterday right?
	G: Yeah, we got to talk to him for quite a bit. I mean, I think we got to walk 
with him for about a little bit more than a quarter of a block talking to him.
	
		Treeman confronted by security.
C: What's wrong?
	S: Nothing

01:23:30:00	Treeman confronted by security.
	
T: ...the mayor arrives.
	G: Yeah.
	C: What...what...what? What happened basically Treeman?
	T: What just now?
	C: Yeah.
	T: Oh, he just wanted me to stay where I'm at when the mayor arrives. I said 
fine, that's okay with me. I have no problem with that at all.

01:24:00:00	[Overheard anonymous conversation]

01:24:24:00	Treeman mission statement.

	T: My name is anonymous tree. I'm just the Treeman.
I2: Very good.

01:25:00:00	 [Muffled conversation]

I2: Whatıs the Treeman trying to say? Whatıs with the whole outfit?
T: The whole outfit is, is that the mayor cares more to spend 12.3 million 
dollars to beautify the city of Chicago for one week for the Democratic 
Convention than he does for affordable housing for the homeless.  We 
realize theyıre spending money but theyıre not making it available in the  
areas that needs to be done to spend 12.3 million dollars for Randolph Street 
for flowers and trees could give housing and SROıs to people who really 
need it.
	You know there are only 5,500 shelter beds in the whole city of Chicago and 
there are about 20,000 people who are homeless every night that have no 
place to sleep and those that were sleeping under Wacker Drive are being 
  		swept up because of the Democratic
01:26:00:00     Convention.
	And they then are placed with no place to go and you know the SRO"s that 
are being tore down and not being renovated would make excellent rooms 
for people.  Iım homeless.  Iıve slept under lower Wacker Drive.  I live in a 
shelter now because I am homeless.  And so Iım not just in this garb 
because I want to make an impression; I want the mayor to realize whatıs 
happening to homeless people in this city.
	I2: How did you get to be homeless?
T: I got to be homeless because of medical reasons and economical reasons.  
The job that I had I was making $4.35 an hour and the job was phased out 
and that, and I just had no other job and I applied and I found hard to find 
work.  And Iım a veteran and even at the VA Hospital I had problems 
getting service from the Veteranıs Administration but then it came through.
	And I have been just struggling as the best I can and when homeless people 
come up and said look we need a voice and we came up with the idea that if 
he loves trees more than he loves homeless people then maybe if I dressed 
up like a tree, heıd understand. 
01:27:00:00     I2: How long have you been homeless?
T:Almost six months.
	I2: Where did you live before you were homeless?
T: I am from Chicago. I was born and raised in here.
I2: Yeah but where did you live in Chicago before you were homeless? 
T: On the south side.
	I2: Whereabouts?
T: On 122nd and Parnell. In Rosalind.
	FI: Whatıs your name?
T: My name is Treeman.
	FI: Why did you decide not to show your face?
T: The face is not important.  The face and the name of the person under 
here is not important its what the symbol is and why I dress as a tree is 
because the mayor cares more for trees than he does for homeless people.  
So, I felt if I dress up like a tree maybe he would care about me.
FI: Are you going to say something to him today?
T: I say something to him everyday when I see him.  Everywhere he goes, 
we go all through the convention.  Everywhere that the mayor will go the 
Treeman will be there.
FI: What about after the convention?
T: The convention, the same thing.  We are not going to stop the issue 
because of the convention.  We are just letting people know that what he 
spent for the convention could have helped a lot of homeless people and the 
people who are formally homeless that have jobs but theyıre not making a 
living wage 
01:28:00:00     enough to live off on.  
	FI: What is your homeless experience?
T: My homeless experience?  Iıve been homeless about six months.  I lost a 
job that I worked for in a factory that I was making $4.25 an hour and the 
factory shut down because it had no contract and I had nowhere else to go.  I 
couldnıt afford an apartment.  
	FI: And now?
T: And now, I live in a shelter and I am speaking out for other homeless 
people who ask for a representative.
P1: What does your sign say there?

Treeman shows his sign to the camera

	I2: Do you think your message will reach the delegates who are coming into 
town this week?
	T:  Oh I think so we have already had delegates that have called the 
coalition and heard about it and would like to be a part of one of our tours 
that we are giving on Monday and yes weıve had delegates from Texas and 
from Nebraska call and say that they want to know about it because they 
heard about it.
01:29:00:00	Theyıre concerned; they may be from other states but their concerned also 
with issues.
	I2: Whatıs the tour about?
	T: Š.People should that are coming here to Chicago should see the real 
Chicago and they should see whatıs going on with homeless people in the 
projects, and whatıs going on in the south loop area and buildings that are 
being tore down that could have been saved to make homes for people and 
the areas that where people live  and where they have to live because they 
have no other placeŠand if they go on a regular tour, Grey Lines is not 
going to show them that.. but we are going to show them the real Chicago, 
the Chicago that should be told it should not covered up just because, Itıs 
the Democrat Convention coming to Chicago.
	I2: These plants that your wearing where did you get them?
	T:  Where did we get these?
	I2: Yeah.  Where did you get the plants?
T: We made this costume, itıs an original costume we bought and made.
	I2: Where did you get the plants? Were they donated by a florist or what?
	T:  No!
	Spectator1: They are plastic.
T: Theyıre plastic.
I2: Purchased 
01:30:00:00 	at a dollar store.

001-Scene C

01:30:05:00	Daley in school shakes hands with students.

01:31:00:00	Daley in school shakes hands with students.

01:31:02:00	Mayor Daley at Washington Irving School.

PRINCIPAL: Good morning Mayor Daley, Mr. Chico, Mr. Bell, Mrs. St. 
James, parents, students, and guests. I'm Madelyn Maraldy, principal of 
Washington Irving school and I'm pleased to welcome you to our school 
where on Dec. 12, 1988 the Chicago school reform bill was signed into law. 
This Legislation was...(Applause) (Loud)

01:31:24:00	Mayor Daley at Washington Irving School.

DALEY: [Clapping]Thank you very much Marilyn for the outstanding 
dedication you have provided for the children here at Washington Irving 
Elementary school and also your dedication to your profession as a teacher, 
uh, you have become a role model here as a commitment to excellence here 
at the school and  a commitment throughout the entire system. I would like 
to recognize the chairman of Chicago Public School Board, Harry Chico, 
Paul Vallas the CEO of Chicago Public Schools, Prince St. James, who is 
the chief operating...chief education officer.
01:32:00:00    	Alderman Madelyn Haycock who is with us as well as Alderman Pat 
OConner who is the chairman of the education committee. The future of our 
city depends upon our public schools. And the future of every child here, in 
this city, depends upon their education. Of all the issues that I've ever dealt 
with this is a major issue, and the other issues are important, but this is the 
issue I believe in this city and I hope it becomes the issue in this country 
because when we talk about housing we talk about jobs, we talk about 
crime, we talk about all the problems within families, all the problems in the 
communities education is the key. We talk about hopelessness, we talk 
about despair, we talk about violence, and, unfortunately, it really gets 
around, uh, the lack of
education of children of another generation 
01:33:00:00     and another generation. So, I firmly believe of all the things I could to do as 
Mayor, and I want to do a lot of things, this is the key. This is the issue that 
will depend upon the success not only on this school, but the children here, 
of every school both elementary and high school in the preparation for every 
child of education here in the city. So I firmly believe that Chicago is 
leading the way in education reform. As president of the US congress of 
mayors, most mayors never ever talk about education. It was not our 
responsibility. It was not our priority. And so, as mayor, as I stood here as 
mayor it wasn't my priority, it wasn't my responsibility, then what are you 
doing as mayor. And that's my quote, "Why not?" Because uh if you don't 
take that responsibility, if you don't take that accountability of decision-
	making you can't lie within somebody else if you want to be the mayor 
01:34:00:00     of a city. And so now, for the first time in the US conference of mayors 
education has been placed on the agenda. My three priorities as president of 
the US conference of mayors was: first, is education, second is drugs, and 
third is jobs. Education is number one. And so in Chicago I think we've 
taken a bold step of basically in placing all our children first and foremost in 
the eyes of the city in the eyes of this country. We have cut waste, which 
happens any place. And in fraud and corruption, raising our standards, 
rebuilding schools. And of course cracking down on school violence in and 
around schools. As we look at the opening, which is a exciting opening of 
the new year in two weeks, I think this should be most exciting day in 
Chicago. I know we the have convention coming, that's exciting. But for 
Chicago and it's children and families, the most exciting 
day will be in two weeks. Children 
01:35:00:00     all over the city going back to school. In one of the...
01:35:04:00	DALEY: ...hired custodial staff at their local school. This program will 
target areas where parents need jobs and also to promote cleaner schools by 
using people who have a invested interest...
01:35:15:00	DALEY: ...And here's  my chief executive of the school's, Lynn St. James, 
who has been an outstanding high school principal and was appointed chief 
education officer. They have done, the entire board and the management 
staff, have done an outstanding job, over the past year. They have worked 
out a long term plan, first of all, to balance the budget, far too long we 
would need a debate right now whether or not the schools are gonna open, 
parents be calling the principal, principals calling 39th St., 39th St. calling 
the Mayor's office, Iıld be calling the union, the union calling the Mayor, 
and it would create real problems in the eyes of the public because, "Can't I 
send my child there." I mean what am I going to do to if they're on strike or 
if they don't open up on time. And each year that builds up. 
01:36:00:00     Maybe that person's child...
01:36:02:00	DALEY: ...so four years with a work relationship with a union, a working 
relationship, not pointing fingers, sitting down going over the facts and 
figures to come to a labor agreement...
01:36:14:00	DALEY: ...they also provide, not only in the city I hope, in this nation is 
education. And we're going to stay on course and I firmly believe this will 
be another exciting year for the children of the Chicago Public School 
System as well as parents. Thank you very much[Clapping].
CHICO: Mr. Mayor..., my name is Barry Chico and I have the, uh, the 
privilege of serving as the president of the Chicago school board...

01:36:46:00	CHICO:...of better results. But we need the support, the active 
involvement...
01:36:50:00	CHICO: ...of our children to do better in school. So, I...
01:36:55:00	US: ...we are going to be holding a number of events from now until that 
day just reminding everybody that thatıs when schools starts. And as Gary 
pointed out not half day but full day. When school starts we hit the ground 
running. We had an exciting and eventful year last year. But we have sss 
yıknow we have so many miles that we have to travel and that we have to 
travel together. I think we've made a lot of accomplishments and in many 
ways what we have done is...
01:37:19:00	US: ...And I think we're already seeing the results in test scores and in 
attendance and in enrollment and in...
01:37:25:00	US: ...parents have to get involved in their children's education...
01:37:30:00	US: ...if someone's trying to make ends meet it can be a real struggle in 
trying to survive in today's economy and at the same time trying to raise a 
family. Uh, it's ah...but...
01:37:40:00	US: ...one step fully implemented. But there is...
R4: Per Year?
US: Pardon me.
R4: Per year?
D: Per year, but they are extremely cost effective.
R5: Mayor Daley, the children gave you some posters which made reference 
to the convention and, in that regard, while this event was taking place 
President Clinton was signing very controversial welfare 
	reform legislation 
01:38:00:00     in Washington and some democratic leaders here, including Congressman 
Bobby Rush, went public today to say that by doing that the President is 
risking disharmony at next week's convention because of how strongly some 
people feel against that legislation.  Might there be a threat to party unity 
here?
DALEY: I don't think so. First of all, ah, we've had a welfare system for a 
log time in this country. Monahan talked about it in 19...was it 1966, in the 
Monahan report and what I have said as the mayor there has to be flexibility 
for people on welfare to get off of welfare. And, here's an example, you will 
meet someone who's been on welfare and someone's going to give them a 
job, five, five or six hours a day, 7 or 8 dollars an hour. It's very difficult 
they can't do that. 
R5: Well theyıre on welfare
DALEY: Well if you take the job you lose some of the benefits that he or 
01:39:00:00	she or their child needs. And so, what has happened itıs gone on for thirty or 
forty years. There has to be some changes. I think everybody is cognizant 
that you don't want to harm children, you don't want to harm the disabled, 
the sick, or people who need it. But I think there has to be some change. 
And so, we decided, say if nothing went through, we'd be talking for another 
thirty years. And so, my belief in signing that legislation, it's only one step 
forward, you have to evaluate that legislation the same thing like school 
reform, you have to constantly re-evaluate. But President Clinton is not here 
for punishment for the bill on welfare. But I firmly believe that 99.9% of the 
people want to get off of welfare. But there's some stumbling 
	blocks there. First of all there's insurance. Secondly there's early child 
education or basically 
01:40:00:00     helping they're child at earlier ages or as a baby or as a one or two-year old. 
How can they get a job as with that two children at home. Daycare, and so, 
there is a number of things that I believe that can have a common sense 
approaches to the problems. Common sense. And I believe its cost effective 
for everybody involved. And so...nothing is perfect, but I'll tell you one 
thing if they don't step forward to welfare reform we'll be talking about it for 
the next forty years. And I...I...I know President Clinton. I know he's going 
to evaluate this legislation. There's a lot of people concerned about it a lot of 
bureaucracies concerned about it, everybody is worried about it. The 
bureaucracy.   A lot of people are worried about it in Washington D.C. about 
their jobs, service providers. Everybody is worried about it. But I firmly 
believe that 99.9% of the people, first of all, want a job, they want to get off 
welfare and they want a home.  
01:41:00:00	and we saw that the other day at Henry Horner. Those people dealing with  
housing, alternative housing, compared to the high-rise. But the second issue 
is a job, and I believe we have to be much more flexible on this, much more 
flexible for that.
R6: Is it very important Mr. Mayor, at this point that this issue not be 
allowed to interfere with party unity?
DALEY: Well, I would say to all of them , uh, that what Bill Clinton has 
provided just in this week, the minimum wage, the health care reform, the 
signing of the Welfare reform, and other things, more police on the streets, 
more role in dealing with education, much more flexibility  from with 
department of education, allowing the creativity in schools to perform 
easier, get the money to them in a much easier way so we can spend it, and 
get it out to produce a product so the children are better educated. But I 
think everybodyhas different issues that effect them. But when it comes to 
President 
01:42:00:00     Clinton, are you going to support President Clinton or are you going to 
support Bob Dole. That's the issue right there.
R7: Mr. Mayor, what is the issue..(Unclear Question)
01:42:07:00	DALEY:...and, and so far we need flexibility in that and as Paul just 
pointed out that's what you have to get to.
R8: Mr. Mayor you're, you're going to speak Monday...
DALEY: Yes.
R8: ...you have a bill to speak Monday and apparently a video, uh, will be 
played that which your Mom is going to speak at least briefly and she's, 
uh, going to be in awe. Um, can I ask, and I feel she's going to gather, her 
all twenty of her grandchildren or her great-grandchildren and all seven 
kids will all be there. Perhaps, how do you feel going into the first night of 
the convention?
DALEY: I think..., I'm very excited. I'm very proud about, uh..., Chicago 
and, uh,  this is a very exciting time to host the President, and the Vice-
president, and national leaders respectively in the party, and the delegates. 
And, uh, this to me is, uh, a great time for Chicago.
    		R8: Is it going to be a milestone for the 
01:43:00:00     family? As your Mom's first, ah...,
DALEY: Well, you separate politics from family in a sense that, y'know, 
in a sense that this is important but I think our family is important. You 
have family things that go on in your family that is the essence of families. 
Uh, My job is, outside, in a sense outside my family it it it... so that your 
family values and what you receive is strictly within the family, within 
your religion.  So to me this is an important milestone. My Mother's 
living, she's up in age, and my 3 brothers and 3 sisters are here with their 
children,grandchildren, her grandchildren.
R8: She, She rarely appears in public doesn't, but she...
DALEY: Right, Yes. She doesn't. And She, uh, is careful about appearing 
in public. Crowds and things like that...but she's uh excited about, sheıs 
excited about coming to this convention especially with President 
Clinton's administration, and 
01:44:00:00	Vice President Al Gore and Hilary and uh the gore's are going to be in 
town soŠ.
R8: What are you going to be speaking about Mr. Mayor?
DALEY: Well that would be ah...[Laughter]. Gosh, we can't release 
everything. It's a welcome speech and also ah you'll see.
R8: Do you feel like comparisons to your Dad? He did that same speech in 
'68, Welcoming right?
DALEY : Right, well every Mayor does that. the Mayor of New York, 
Mayor Dinkins did that. Ah, Ah, y'know, Mayor Young did it in Atlanta.  I 
mean all Mayors. That's part of protocol in hosting a convention. So, we 
all do that. Mayor Susan Golden did that in San Diego, so that's all part of 
itŠ
R8: You don't feel any historical...
Daley: NO
R8: somebody looking over your shoulder,
DALEY: No I don't.
R7: My understanding is that firefighters will be protesting right outside 
the DNC. What kind of a message does that send..
DALEY: They have a right to. Anybody has a right to protest 
01:45:00:00     about any issue that concerns them and that concerns their organization. 
There's nothing wrong with that.
R9: Mayor Daley, in relation to the wonderful pictures that's we've seen all 
over the[inaudible, baby noises]... have businesses along Madison St. and 
along other[inaudible, baby noises]... to spruce up or to beautify...
DALEY: Oh yeah. I've been...All over the city I've been kicking butt in 
other words[Laughter]. I think, y'know, I think...I have you better believe 
it. Y'know property owners, they have a right if they live next door to you, 
they should clean their properties if they're going to live in the suburbs or 
live on Lake Shore Drive. You better believe it, if they have a truck 
company, if they have a factory, you better believe they have a right, they 
should clean it up. Up along Lake street, Madison street, Monroe street, 
Cicero, Pulaski, Halsted, Western, Ashland, 63rd, 79th, Irving. You better 
believe it.
R6: ...lately city officials have been implying is that inspectors are going 
to swoop in and shut them down if they don't they are
DALEY: No. For one thing I have a landscape ordinance. Their home is 
	landscape why can't their business 
01:46:00:00     be landscaped in the community city of Chicago?[Clapping] You Better 
Believe it. I asked them to put up instead of a...a...a wire fence, I asked 
them to put up a rod iron fence. That's for me, the Mayor. Iıll send any 
property owner that letter that owns a business in Chicago. To clean up 
Chicago and to make Chicago more of a quality of life issue for children 
walking by.
R8:... some of them,..., there's something almost illegal about...
DALEY: I asked them to take a broom and go out there and clean up when 
the children are walking by. You better believe it. So they should clean up 
their own property. They should clean up, they should hire some children 
in the community, they should hire the Christian industrial league, some 
homeless people to clean their property...[Clapping] I asked them to clean 
up the front of their street, I asked them to clean up the alley. You're right. 
I'll take the blame for that and I'll take the responsibility for it.
R9: Sir, this morning Al Sharpton made allegations that the cities trying to 
disguise their existing poverty. Any comments?
	DALEY: No, well we know, you can go two blocks to the...you can go 
right to Henry Horner's and there's poverty there. Yes there is. 
01:47:00:00     But we're not just looking at, I don't write books about it, I don't ask for 
more studies about it, we're doing something about it. We're building 
homes, yet the other day we announced a job training program for men 
and women who live there to get into the unions, to become construction 
people and not just for the period in building that home but for their lives. 
And that's the other thing we have to do is not just looking at it and 
writing books and giving speeches. uh you can talk to Ernest Gates, 
Mauve Brown from Henry Horner, all of them. They're out  actively doing 
it You can look at the whole west side, it's changed and we're going to 
change it.
R8: Well, after the convention, uh, will the sweep continue to carry out to 
beautify the West bank.
DALEY: Oh, we have a snap district that...all these things were done prior 
to the convention, none of these things were done for the convention. 
Henry Horner has been discussed for 25 years in this city, the snap district 
was put in effect for three years, the Michael James Jordan ah, ah....

01:47:55:00	Pan from Roosevelt Station to surrounding buildings.

01:48:00:00	Pan from Roosevelt Station to surrounding buildings.

01:48:30:00	Neighborhood Houses.

01:48:40:00	South Loop Building pan to neighborhood homes

01:49:00:00	Neighborhood Houses.

01:49:13:00	Pan Roosevelt Road.

01:49:48:00	Porch in South Loop.

01:50:00:00	Porch in South Loop.

01:50:04:00	Roosevelt Road Sign.

01:50:17:00	Porches in South Loop

01:50:31:00	Sidewalk of Neighbor hood street 

01:50:45:00	Graffiti under Bridges.

01:51:00:00	Graffiti under Bridges bad neighborhood.

01:51:06:00	More Graffiti under bridges ­ 2 shots 

01:51:44:00	Truck under bridge 

01:52:00:00	Truck under bridge continues.

01:52:03:00	Skyline Park Lofts sign / under construction 

01:52:14:00	Homeless men with shopping carts walk by townhouse construct.

01:53:00:00	Homeless men with shopping carts walk by townhouse construct.

01:54:00:00	Homeless men with shopping carts.

01:55:00:00	Homeless men with shopping carts. Pan to luxury townhouses  

01:55:42:00	Grant park Beautification.Stairs to statue
01:55:55:00	Park Worker doing work in park 

01:56:00:00	Park Worker doing work in park 

01:56:08:00	Park worker from a distance doing work in Park around the steps to 
Statue 

01:56:35:00	More workmen at the park working 

01:57:00:00	More workmen at the park working dolly out to statue

01:57:29:00	LS of Workman working in park by tree

01:57:33:00	Grant Park statue horse legs

01:57:39:00	wide shot overlooking grant park with buildings 

01:57:59:00	Tape Ends.



























002

First Ten Minutes 
02:40:00	Treeman at the office shows sign which reads If I dress like a tree will you 
care about me?  Zoom out to office activity.
02:58:00	JOHN: (talking to child at CCH headquarters.)  What do you want, 
you want housing, you want a home?  Is that what you want?
	KID:  (back to John, shyly)  Yea.
	JOHN:  Yea, (unintelligible) What do you want?
	KID:  Housing.
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	KID:  Now.
	JOHN: What do you want?
	KID: Housing.
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	KID:  Now.
	JOHN: What do you want?
	KID: Housing.
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	KID:  Now.
	JOHN:  Lets go.  (John and kid exit room and meet up with Treeman and 
others.  They walk toward exit.)
02:01:40:00	TM:  (to all in room.)  Donıt nobody bring their dog to pee on my leg 
either.  (laughter from all in room)  I can see, yea.  We had a dress 
yesterday so weŠ.(unintelligible)
02:02:02:00	(crowd outside CCH gathering to walk to Mayor Daleyıs house.  Treeman 
joins crowd some talking is heard but is unintelligible)
02:02:38:00	JOHN:  (to crowd)  And we want this community to remain a mixed 
income community.  And we have been in conversations with the city 
administration, but they donıt want to listen to our numbers.  Now they are 
Šitıs true they are building 2 new SROıs in the south Loop, but theyıre  
willing to destroy the 1000 
02:03:00:00	units of single room occupancy housing that already exists here, and they 
have not agreed to build any family housing, while the fastest growing 
population among the homeless is women with children. And so weıre 
going this morning to visit the Mayor because he promised to meet with 
us, and has not done so, and we have to come to no agreement about what 
a mixed income community in the south Loop would look like.  Weıre the 
south Loop campaign for development but not displacement.  So weıre 
gonna walk over to the Mayorıs house
	have a little rally, tell him the Treeman is coming, and ahŠ.then weıll 
come back and weıll have some breakfast. Okay?
	CROWD: (Muffled response of acknowledgement)
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing.
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing.
	JOHN: When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing.
	JOHN: When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  So you guys are waitinı
	CROWD:  OH YEAH
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing.
	JOHN: When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
02:04:00:00	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing.
	JOHN: When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	
02:04:06:00	(crowd walks toward Daleyıs house)
	TM:  If I dress like a tree will you care about me?  (crowd joins)
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress like a tree will you care about me?
02:04:28:00	(crowd still walking) 
	 JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley, the Treeman is coming!  (crowd joins in)
	CROWD: The treeman is coming!
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming!
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming
02:05:00:00 	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley 
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming!
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming
	(Police in squad cars arrive and order protestors onto sidewalk.)
	JOHN:  (To crowd)  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing!
	JOHN:  What do we want?
	CROWD:  Housing!
	JOHN:  We donıt need flower pots.
	CROWD:  We donıt need flower pots.
	JOHN:  We need homes.
	CROWD:  We need homes.
	JOHN:  We donıt need flower pots.
	CROWD:  We donıt need flower pots.
	JOHN:  We need homes.
	CROWD:  We need homes.
	JOHN:  We donıt need flower pots.
	CROWD:  We donıt need flower pots.
	JOHN:  We need homes.
	CROWD:  We need homes.
02:05:40:00	JOHN:  (walking on Mayor Daleyıs block)Ša tree.
	CROWD:  Should I dress up like a tree?
	JOHN:  For you to care about me?
	CROWD:  For you to care about me?
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	CROWD: The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	CROWD: The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
02:06:00:00	CROWD: The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	
02:06:05:00	(crowd in front of Daleyıs house)
02:06:10:00	JOHN:  Everybody gather around behind theŠ. the Treeman there?  Hey 
Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	CROWD:  The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	CROWD: The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	CROWD:  Hey Mayor Daley.
	JOHN:  The Treeman is coming.
	CROWD: The Treeman is coming.
	JOHN:  What does the Treeman have to say today?  
	(John puts bullhorn in front of Treeman)
	TM:  If I dress up like a tree Mayor Daley, will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress up like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress up like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress up like a tree will you care about me?
	TM&CROWD:  If I dress up like a tree will you care about me?
	JOHN:  Well we brought the Treeman here this morning.  
02:07:00:00	I donıt know if youıve seen the Crains Chicago this week.  They estimate 
180 million dollars for the convention to be spent.  Mostly on 
beautification projects; flower pots and trees.  And weıre here today, 
homeless people dressed like trees because what we need is not flower 
pots, we need trees.  And we are here to campaign just before the election 
and we finally met with the administration and came 
	to no agreement about what this community should look like.  Now if the 
Mayor proposes a mixed income community for Henry Horner Homes, 
Cabrini Green, tell him to put his money where his mouth is, in his own 
neighborhood.  This community should be a mixed income 
communityŠ.excuse meŠ
02:08:00:00	(Police Lieutenant walks up to John)
	PL:  I just want to tell you one thing, the noise levelŠ.(unintelligible)Š
02:08:04:00	PL:Š.your going to have to tone it down.
	JOHN:  Iım going to tone it down a bit.
	PL:  Tone it down a lot more than you are doing.
	JOHN:  OK
	PL:  Because youŠ.(to crowd) you can gather in closer to him so you can 
hear.
	JOHN:  (whispering into bullhorn)  well, what do you guys want?
	CROWD:  (softer than before) Housing.
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing
	JOHN:  When do you want it?
	CROWD:  Now.
	JOHN:  What do you want?
	CROWD:  Housing
	JOHN:  When do you want it?

02:08:23:00	CROWD:  Open the door Richard, open the door (laughter)open the door 
Richard Open the door Richard why donıt you open that door?
	JOHN:  Treeman come on up here now.  We are debuting, introducing the 
Treeman.  Treeman why are you here this morning?
	TM:  (to crowd)  Iım here because Iım a homeless person, that lives in a 
shelter and, and it seems like the mayor cares more about 12.3 million 
dollars for trees and flowers for one week for the Democratic Convention 
and nothing for homeless people.
02:09:00:00	It isnıt fair for people like myself and others that live in shelters, live 
under lower Wacker Dr. that we canıt find an SRO to live in, we canıt find 
a place to stay to be safe, but we can walk down Randolph and see plants 
and trees for $12.3 million dollars when it only takes less than 15,000 
dollars per room to renovate the St. James.
	CROWD:  Yeah, WoooŠ.(clapping)
	JOHN:  (to crowd)  Have you ever seen a talking tree before?  Amazing, 
Iıve seen a talking horse you know, a talking cow, but here we have a 
talking tree.
	CROWD:YEAH!
	TM:  And you will see a lot of me all this week and next week all over the 
convention, all over Chicago be ready Chicago, the Treeman is here.
	CROWD:  Woooo!
	JOHN:  Not only Chicago, but especiallyŠ.
	TM:  Especially Mayor Daleyıs neighborhood.  I will be here Richard. I 
will be hereŠ
	JOHN:  Not just in the hood, but wherever the Mayor is.
	TM:  Wherever the Mayor is all this week the Treeman will be there.
02:10:00:00	CROWD:  WOOO!!
	JOHN:  Letıs have a hand for Treeman.  Stay up here now Treeman 
youıre the hit of the show.

Ten minutes missing here!

	A man: People in Chicago, Thank you
	Crowd:  Whooo
	John:  Housing for the needy!
	Crowd:  Not for the greedy!
	John:  Housing for the needy!
	Crowd:  Not for the greedy!
	John:  Housing for the needy!
	Crowd:  Not for the greedy!
	John:  Housing for the needy!
	Crowd:  Not for the greedy!
	John:  Housing for the needy!
	Crowd:  Not for the greedy!
	John: Is he coming, The treeman is coming!  This is Robin umŠ Robin 
Maclure
	Crowd:  Whoo
02:10:45:00    RM:  Good Morning, I am a single mother of three great boys.  I was put 
out of CHA because of gang violence there is no space or affordable 
housing in the city of Chicago for a single mother who wants to keep her 
children out of gangs or away from drugs.  I ask major Daley to do what 
you can to help me and women like me.  I have two children that are with 
me, who are musicians, who are into singing, they are constantly 
performing.  Matter of fact they were performing for the President next 
week.  Now if I can keep the out of gangs and keep them safe Iım sure you 
can find me some kind of affordable housing where I can maintain some 
kind of dignity and show them that everything is not bad about this city.
	Crowd:  Cheer for Robin
02:11:30:00	John: Robin would you like to live in the south loop?  Would you like to 
be Major Daleyıs neighbor?  How does that song go Mr. Rogersıs 
neighborhood?  Wonıt you be, wonıt you be, and wonıt you be my 
neighbor?
	John w/ crowd: Major Daley, wonıt you be, wonıt you be, and wonıt you 
be my neighbor?  Wonıt you be, wonıt you be, wonıt you be my 
neighbor?  What do you want?
	Crowd: housing!
	John: when do you want it?
	Crowd: Now!
02:12:00:00	John: Now we have Madeline Tilbin from acorn here.  Madeline why 
donıt you come on up here and lead us in a cheer and say a few words?
	Madeline:  Un audible
	John:  Itıs not just us, right, itıs over 80,000 people in the city of Chicago 
will be homeless this year, you know.  And we know that the Major has 
spent 12.3 million dollars just on flowerpots.  And, if you read Cranes 
Chicago it says, "Primping Chicago has cost 180 million dollars.  And 
they couldnıt spend 2.9 million dollars to rehab the St. James, What is 
that?  And their building town homes in the south loop that have seven 
bathrooms?  Now the people at the St. James share a bathroom, 30 people 
on one floor have to share a bathroom, not even two blocks away their 
gonna have a home with seven bathrooms, thatıs obscene.  Thatıs wrong.
02:13:22:00    Crowd:  AgreesŠ
	John:  If the Major talks about a mixed income community whatıs wrong 
with having these role models living next to them.  They donıt want more, 
they just want some, you know?  Some housing, right.  And jobs that pay a 
living wage? Right
	Crowd:  Yeah!
	John:  Gatta pay the rent, right?  Wanna pay the rent, wanna work, we 
need jobs that pay a living wage.  We need housing in this community in 
the South Loop.  So, now are you ready to really sing it out?
	Crowd:  Yeah!
02:13:56:00    John: Open the door Richard! Open the door Richard! Open the door 
Richard?  Richard why donıt you open that door? Open the door Richard!
	Who wants to work?
	Crowd:  Yeah!
	John:  Who wants a job?
	Crowd: Yeah!
	John:  Who wants housing?
	Crowd:  Yeah!
	John:  You want to live in the South Loop? 
	Crowd:  Yeah!
	John:  Alright, Now we are going to ask Mark Jolene from StateWide 
Housing Action coalition- (cut to-)
	John:  Here is Keith Keller from local 880, Heıs wondering off there he 
got up a little early this morning.  There he is Keith Keller from Local 880 
SEIU service worker.
	(Sound low, camera sits on crowd)
02:14:46:00	KK: Thank you.  (Inaudible) Š campaign for the living wage, because if 
we donıt have living wage jobs you canıt get good homes and good 
apartments in the south loop next to Major Daley, hopefully.  But, we are 
here today to say that labor supports you, we support you.  You work with 
us on the living wage campaignŠ we would like to say, we need a living 
wage and living wage jobs to make sure we can live in the South Loop and 
we are calling on the Democrats to act like Democrats.  Calling on the 
Major to act like the Democrats that they are, hopefully and actually 
support a living wage ordinance in Chicago that will make it available for 
people to get good jobs at 7.60.  Thank you very much.
	Crowd: Yeah!
02:15:32:00    John: Now after the big protest in 1968 Major Richard J. Daley said, " 
Those protesters what trees did they plant?"  Well we are going to plant a 
tree, were gonna set down our roots in the South Loop.  Get ready major 
we are going to plant a tree in your neighborhood.  You can take away our 
homes, you can take away our jobs, but you canıt take away our roots.  
We are going to put down roots in the South Loop and that is the 
significance of the tree man.  What do you say Treeman?
	TM:  Treeman says Richard open the door, cause we are here.
	Crowd: Open the door Richard! Open the door Richard! Open the door 
Richard?  Richard why donıt you open that door? Open the door Richard! 
Open the door Richard! Open the door Richard?  Richard why donıt you 
open that door? 
02:16:32:00   Crowd (RM with sign): Housing for the needy, not for the greedy! Housing 
for the needy, not for the greedy! Housing for the needy, not for the 
greedy! Housing for the needy, not for the greedy! Housing for the needy, 
not for the greedy! Housing for the needy, not for the greedy! Housing for 
the needy, not for the greedy! Housing for the needy, not for the greedy! 
Housing for the needy, not for the greedy! 
	John:  Šnext week okay.  I just wanted to let Major Daley know that the 
Treeman is coming
	Crowd: Yeah!
	Treeman:  Now, I told you Iıd be here.  Iım a man of my word are you a 
man of your word.  You said you would meet with us, why havenıt you 
met with us? 
	(The crowd walks away from Daleyıs house)
	John:  Open the door Richard, Open the door RichardŠ Weıll be back; 
Weıll be back, cont.
	Crowd:  (as the walk away) Weıll be back!  Weıll be back!
02:17:52:00     (Camera catches up to John and asks, "Howıs it going John?"
	John:  I think itıs going okay, huh?  What do you think?  I think we got 
their attention, and today was just to debut the Treeman.  The Treeman 
will be following the Major where ever he is during the convention so his 
father said, "they donıt plat trees", referring to the protesters.  This really 
isnıt about protest, itıs about housing for people who have to live on the 
streets, you know?  This ainıt about protest.
	Camera Kid: See you later
02:18:26:00     Group of protestors walking back to the projects: I want a JOB so I can 
EAT!




02:19:20:00	(members of CCH enter the office and talk about the protest.)
02:20:10:00	(John and others talk about protest)
	JOHN:  I mean we had a package.
	JOHN:  Tribune?  Tribune was there?
	PREPPEY GUY:  Well, a photographer, no reporter was there.  But weıll 
probably get a photo out of it.
	JOHN:  Well, I saw WGN was there.
	PG:  Channel 7, 32.
	JOHN:  Oh really?  
	WOMAN:  FOX was there, yeahŠ.you saw 7?
	JOHN:  Mark told me 7, 32, and 9.
	P.G.:  Alright, so now we'reŠ. Thinking
	JOHN:  Getting ready , Wednesday, tomorrows Wednesday, 2 o'clock, 
we'll get together tomorrow at 2 to plan for Saturday.
	P.G.:  Ed is driving Treeman around?
	JOHN:  That is correct, yeah.
02:21:10:00	(various shots around interior of CCH)
02:21:39:00	(Gerrardo takes breakfast orders)
	ROBIN:  inaudible
	GERRARDO:  (spanish)
	ROBIN:  That's itŠ.(inaudible)Š.does that every day, on the radio, I'll be 
like
	GERRARDO:  Tony, Tony Antada
	WOMAN:  (pointing to kid)  He's going to have hotcakes.
	GERRARDO:  Hotcakes.
02:22:25:00	CAMERAMAN:  So tell me about what happened this morning.
WOMAN:  Letıs hear from the young people.  What do you all think?
BOY:  It was exciting.
WOMAN:  Exactly, next time your going to speak right?Šyou a little 
nervous this morning.  Next time you going to speak to Mayor Daley.  Itıs 
funny you can play but you canıt talk long as he can get that saxophone 
and go, but not talk.
ROBIN:  He sayıs thatıs his voice, the saxophone is his voice.
CM:  Tell us what youıll be doing at the Democratic National Convention.
BOY:  They gonna (nail?), the Whitney high school band.  We just going 
to sit thereŠI donıt know how close weıre gonna be to them what else we 
are going to do to him.  We are going to play for him and the other people 
that are around there.
CM:  What would you like to tell President Clinton?
02:23:25:00	BOY:  I want to tell him everything that is going on in Chicago cause I 
donıt think he is too familiar with it all the way in Washington.
CM:  And what would you say?
BOY:  I would tell him about how Mayor Daley is treating the homeless 
and how he is putting plants before people and how they are clearing 
everybody from under um lower um Wacker Drive.
CM:  How do you feel about that?
BOY:  Itıs wrong.
WOMAN:  We are going to give him a contract, a youth contract there 
and hand to him that outlines the youth, the things that youth want.
CM:  What does it basically state?
WOMAN:  It talks about um job training, support system, there needs to 
be more money in the state budgets to support the homeless and itıs um 
probably a counteract of the contract of all America that the republicans 
put 
02:24:25:00	together, but this one is actually a contract with Americaıs youth , not a 
contract on America, like the one Republicans put together.  So we are 
talking about um quality job training and welfare reform that supports the 
family notŠnotŠtransitional and permanent housing why we know 
transitional housing is not the answer.  Itıs definitely a need until we have 
permanent housing educational opportunities (inaudible) that youth donıt 
have,  that talk about cutting out loans for youth and equal rights for 
immigrant youthŠ. Thatıs kind the contents of the contract.
02:25:25:00	CM:  What is the contract so how are you going about this whole 
processŠhow can you vote when you are homeless you donıt have an 
address or anything?
WOMAN:  Well you donıt have to have, they can use the address of 
where they are, a shelter or Wacker Drive or wherever they can use that 
address to register to vote and weŠwhere we train some of the homeless 
people in their shelters and even in surrounding neighborhoodsŠaround 
the different shelters so itıs going to work.
CM:  How are you going to get the homeless to the polls in November?
WOMAN:  We haveŠthatıs trickyŠbecause we have, becauseŠwe can 
encourage and get them out but we have to make sure that it does not 
appear that we are telling them how to vote.  But turn out is very important 
not only with the homelessŠbecause we wouldnıt be struggling with this 
republican administration that we have if people in general had gone out 
and voted in the last election so nobody got out to vote, so we are 
encouraging
02:26:25:00	and saying that it is just as important to get people out to the polls to vote 
as it is to registerŠif they stay at home itıs still not going to work so we 
encourage them as we register them, we talk about getting them out to the 
pollsŠwe can send out flyers and we can talk about getting them out to 
the polls to actually vote and I think that things that we did this morning 
making sure the homeless understand and know the issues it wouldnıt be 
as difficult to get them out and let them know they can indeed register to 
vote where they are and that political empowerment is just as important as 
any other empowerment effort that we are doing because that's all the 
politicians listen to, they donıt have the care and understanding that we 
have to think about can this group vote me in or out of office, 
unfortunately.
02:27:22:00	ROBIN:  (already speaking)  schoolŠwalked in and the sheriffs 
department said who are you?  I said this is my apartment and he said not 
anymore and he handed me some papers, ok, and I read the papers saying I 
had been evicted and stuff like this and I said, well, when do I go to court 
and nobody gave me the papers to go to court, oh they were given to 
somebody on the porch to give to you, I said but I thought you had to give 
me those papers.  No we donıt have to put those in your hands as long as 
we give them to someone on your floor to give to you and I never 
understood that because I was always told that eviction papers, you were 
always supposed to be served directly with them because you were 
supposed to sign for them and that never happened so I said look can I get 
just a few things packed to the side that I can take them somewhere with 
meŠno you canıt take this stuff to one of your neighbors houses because 
then they will get evicted for keeping your things in their house which I 
thought was asinine.
02:28:28:00	ROBIN:  (already speaking)  ŠDo what I had to do because Iım the one 
that had to live there and I came in from school and they were grabbing all 
my stuff and I went into my bedroom to get my mother, my mother had, 
my mother passed away about nine years ago and she always wore this 
gold chain with a heart on it and it was on my shelf and I went in there to 
get it and it was gone and I think that upset me that that was missing more 
than anything else besides pictures I had of her and my dad because both 
of my parents have deceased and I think because, God, I if I couldnıt get 
anything else I wanted that to go, I wanted to give that to Robert becaused 
he always liked it.  She had always said to make sure Robert got it when 
he was four but Robert would get it when he went to college..anyway.  
CM:  So tell me about this other part, now your homeless
02:29:28:00	ROBIN:  YesŠso whenŠ
CM:  Now what?
ROBIN:  Šand you know it was so strange for the way they did mine 
because usually the set peoples stuff in the back of the building instead of 
setting my stuff in the back of the building they set my stuff out in front of 
Cottage Grove in the street, and than all the people who set my stuff out 
had a big sign that said 40414 which is the building we live in apartment 
509 so that everybody would know this was my stuff sitting out there and I 
guess she said I kept I made a lot of problems for them because everytime 
I saw something going on I would like ask questions about it and the 
janitor came back and said Robin I am going to have to tell you they 
treatin you like this because they want the other tenants to know that if 
you donıt keep their mouths closed this is what will happen to you Šand  
I thought, God, and a lot of times they came to me  with things going on
02:30:25:00	because they knew I worked for Rural Crisis Intervention Network and I 
would call people and find out stuff like that and so I guess itıs like he said 
I was made an example of so after they had set my stuff out I had asked 
one of the people outside one of the people to keep my stuff while I went 
to the school to get my son and I went to the school to get Robert and my 
nephew and I told them what was going on and they said ok and so they 
went and got my stuff and I took them to different people in the buildings 
housesŠ
CM:  Now youıre homeless, what did you do next?
ROBIN:  The first thing I did was call Rural Crisis Intervention, to let 
them know what was going onŠ.in the next meeting Š and his wife said 
02:31:25:00	told me Robin just stay there we will get there as soon as we can um.  One 
of the parents came over from the school and said Mrs. Adams, who is one 
of the SDRıs who worked at the school and said Mrs. Adams to come here 
because she wants to talk to you and I said well I canıt leave my stuff and 
she said girl just leave your stuff because she wants to talk to you so get 
over to the school .  And I went in and Mrs. Adams takes me to the side 
and she says, Listen get what you can carry take it to my house my kids 
are waiting.  She said thereıs uh, she had ah, she had ah three room 
apartment on the first floor her daughter had just moved out of and she 
said listen you guys can stay there until you get your feet on the ground 
Šshe said give me a little give me what you can give me and I donıt mean 
toŠyou need to save you some money she said so and get what you can 
so we took what we could carry to her house and um, she got of work and 
came there, and I had classes cuz I was still going to school for the crisis 
center.
CM:  What did you know about homelessness now that you dint before the 
experience?
ROBIN:  I never thought that homelessness meant women and children.  I 
never thought that. I always thought homelessness meant,  Homelessness 
was some one was an alcoholic, usually a man, who hung out on the 
02:32:25:00	street.  But when I became homeless I began seeing, God there are, that 
this mostly women and children.  And itıs not your fault and itıs not, a lot 
of time its just circumstances, and even with me right now (laugh) I run 
into officialsŠŠ.Who says things to me nowŠlike this thing I was going 
through with the board of education where I was calling trying to get 
Robert Rinaldoıs school specificŠwho is head of the homeless education 
department, I said to her about Robert going to King HS I said listen he 
canıt go there right now because the gangs are, are trying to kill us I need 
to put him somewhere where there are very few gang members and 
somewhere where he will be safe.  She gave me the names of two schools 
and said well this is his only choice I said both of those schools are gang 
infested and she said well take a 
02:33:25:00	chance, I said excuses me you want me to take a chance with my chills 
life, you have to give the schools a chance and I said excuse me if this was 
your child would you send them there and she said listen donıt go there 
with meŠbut than again Iım not the one whoıs homeless am I?  Excuse 
me this is a person who works for the board of education making $67,000 
a year and this is her attitude toward homeless children.. I mean there's 
something wrong with that before they hire these people they should ask 
them how they feel about the homeless you know.  But her attitudeŠshe 
talks down to homeless people even parents.  She talks toŠ she is one of 
those people who ŠI mean a person who is not real strong to her she 
would break them real quick, they wold be like there's why am I even 
trying.
CM:  So how did you feel as a person?
ROBIN:  When I ran across her I wanted to choke her to death I would tell 
youŠIf I had been face to face with her I probably would have been 
rolling on the floor and what really upset me with her and most of the 
02:34:25:00	people I deal with, boy these are all black women, black women, thatıs 
putting my black sons through this.  Excuse me, you have made it, your 
job, I mean to me I transgress all black people when you make it out, itıs 
your job to reach back in there and pull one more person out of there, not 
be the one more person out of there not be the one that says well I made it 
out too bad for the rest of them.  Untuh, untuh.  To me they should be the 
ones trying to fight for the rest of us up out of there.
02:34:50:00	(various shots around CCH headquarters boardroom, with Robin and 
others watching the video from the morning rally)
02:35:50:00	MAN:  (inside van with Treeman and others)  What we weıre going to do 
this afternoon was go to TGM to Susanneıs motherıs and tell them about 
it.
	TM:  Do you know that John Donahue and the thing about Treeman, got 
picked up in Madison Wisconsin?
	MAN:  Did he really?
	TM:  Yeah, my son called, he told me it was on the CBS affiliate in 
Madison last night about a demonstration in front of the Mayorıs house, 
and I said Œyouıre kiddingı and he said ŒNo.ı
	MAN:  CBS affiliate?
	TM:  CBS affiliate in Madison, WI.  See I told him I hadŠ
	MAN:  No I didnıt see CBS there either.
	TM:  CBS and WGN are they all owned by the same?
	MAN:  ABCŠ.ABC I thought, did anybody see onŠ.
	WOMAN:  Gonzo did.
	MAN:  What?
	TM:  It was on FOX last night.
	MAN:  Did you say gobs of it?
02:36:50:00	WOMAN:  GonzoŠ.he saw it, it was really brief.
MAN:  Yeah, I was going to say that it was probally really breif.
	MAN:  Well, when I went to St. Leonards house today to drop off 
something, a couple of the guys were like ŒSo whatıs the Treeman doing 
today?ı and then I told them all I was thereŠ.this guy, he isnıt allŠ.he 
didnıt quite put it all, but he remembered he saw us all walking past St. 
Leonards yesterday.
	TM:  You know what would have been a good caption shot, when that city 
worker came off the blue truck to get a bottle, if they had come out from 
the tree trimming department and said ŒI care about you,ı that with his 
hard hat, that would have been some picture, you know that?
02:37:55:00	(various shots inside van)
02:38:05:00	TM:  Hey was Streetwise there yesterday, at Daleyıs?
	WOMAN:  No.
	TM:  They were supposed to be, they committed that a camera would be 
there, cause Jennifer said she told John ŒWe will be there Tuesday 
morning with a camera,ı and she was going to write somethingŠ.ıcause 
there was one cameraman there I didnıt recognize with a 35mm.  I thought 
I would invite him in.
	GERRARDO:  That was the Tribune.
	TM:  No, I know the Trib. Heıs the one that asked my name.  I wouldnıt 
tell him, you know?  I told him I was anonymous tree.
	The Reader guy was.
	TM:  Oh, was that the Reader guy?
WOMAN:  No, No the Tribune Guy.
	MAN:  The Reader guy is going around with John next week.
TM:  Yeah.
MAN:  He should have come around this week, we may be doing more 
this week.  Next week isŠ  Are we doing the banners. 
	TM:  No.
	WOMAN:  The banners gotŠ..
02:39:01:00	(CCH members and Treeman go to see Mayor Daleyıs speech at the 
CAPS meeting in the park)
	CM:  (to man)  What are we doing right now?
	MAN:  Huh?
	CM:  What are we doing right now?
	WOMAN:  Weıre going to where the Mayor is speaking with the 
alternative police force at um, Ekhert Park, which is um, in the middle of 
this Puerto Rican community, itıs a pretty poor community actually, (to 
Gerrardo) whatıs the alternative police force?
	GERRARDO:  CAPS, Community Alternative Policing Strategy, itıs 
probably just to say ŒLook our system is workingı (puts up quotation 
marks) "Bullshit!" and you know itıs wonderful, itıs keeping all the gang 
members out of the area where we want to gentrify especially this area, 
this is one of the biggest gentrifying neighborhoods in the city of Chicago 
and uhŠ.
	CM:  What exactly do they do, what exactly do they stand for?
	GERRARDO:  CAPS?  Well supposedly the police department to work 
together with community groups and uh, uh to better the neighborhood, 
get rid of the gangs and stuff, and thatıs the whole idea, but in realityŠ.


Ten minutes missing here!
02:40:13:00    Group walks with TM to CAPS ceremony across a park.
02:41:01:00    Suits waiting for things to begin.
02:41:46:00    Man: Very attractive outfit wonder if he is hot, probably is.
	CM:  What do you represent?
	Man:  The Chicago Police Department
	CM:  Can you tell about whatıs going on here today?
	Man:  A community policing event, uh, essentially we have events all 
week, um, (PA interrupts: inaudible) Treeman was there I didnıt see him, 
he looks hot be sure he has enough fluids.
02:42:34:00     Nice shot of Treeman walking along a fence with Daley and his people 
walking on the other side. (Choosing to miss some of the introductions: an 
officer at the podiumŠ blah blah)
02:43:53:00     MD: Thank youŠNAMESŠmembers of the 13th police district advisory 
council and police officers, fine citizens.  First of all I would like to 
express my condolences to Police district commander Janet Peska and the 
passing of her mother as commander? pointed out.  She is attending those 
services in Florida and I know our prayers and our thoughts are with her, 
with the commander and her family.  Today the Chicago police 
department again the community policing strategy is a model for the 
nation, especially here in the 13th police district.  Itıs a model for 
community policing arena.  As we began community policing and this is 
not just some PR stunt announced by the Major and the super intendent.  
The committee was thought up by the citizens and the police department 
working together, because many of the suggestions and changes over the 
years have come from the local advisory council in each district, and the 
police officers on the beat with in each district given us suggestions and 
improvements about community policing.  The officers in this district 
have reached out to young people, businesses, block clubs, community 
organizations, as well as churches of all denominations.  Basically it is a 
partnership of building a safer better community.  This district has one of 
this citiesıs most active bike patrols, which is working to keep parks areas 
and commercial districts safe for the residents.  Theyıre aggressively 
removing graffiti from the buildings in this district.  Over a two-day 
period last month more then 350 buildings were cleaned thanks to their 
efforts.  You will see a demonstration to get street lights 
02:45:56:00 STILL MISSING 5 MINUTES OF DALEY




02:50:00:00	(Treeman walks toward Daley after speech)
	
02:50:04:00	REPORTER:  Pardon me Treeman, whatıs the point?
	TM:  The point is he cares more about trees and flowers and beautification 
for the city than he does for homeless people.  He spent 12.3 million 
dollars to bring, plant trees and bring flowers for one week. And there are 
only 5,500 beds a night in shelters uh beds and there are 25,000 people a 
night that have no place to go.  He wonıt deal with SROıs. He wonıt meet 
with us.  And itıs a impact why spend that amount of money if heıs not 
going to deal with homeless people?
	REPORTER:  Treeman, when you are not being a tree, what do you call 
yourself?
	TM:  Iım homeless, Iım a homeless man.
	REPORTER:  Your name?
	TM:  Iım anonymous 
REPORTER: 	Thank you.
(reporter walks away)
	(Mayor walks toward Treeman)
02:50:48:00	MAN:  Mr. Mayor, we would like to talk to you.
	DALEY:  Keep planting those trees.
	MAN:  We are, we would like to invite you to our tree planting.
	GERRARDO:  Mr. Mayor, My name is Gerrardo, John would like to have 
a meeting with you, 
02:51:00:00	weıve been trying to get a hold of you for quite some time now and , um, 
we havenıt been able to get something going here. SoŠ
	WOMAN:  You have to dress up like a tree to get attention.
  (laughter)
	GERRARDO:  Weıd rather weıd rather see $12 million going to programs 
to help the homeless you know, rather than keeping them off Wacker Dr. 
(unintelligible)
	MAN:  Mr. Mayor, are you going to erase homelessness like you do 
graffiti?
	GERRARDO:  Is your community going to be a mixed income 
community like Kabrini Green is?  Thatıs what weıre asking for. 
(unintelligible) If Kabrini Green can be a mixed income community, why 
canıt yours?
	DALEY:  Have a nice weekend.
	GERRARDO:  Are you afraid of something?
	DALEY:  Have a nice weekend.
	MAN:  Mayor, Mayor, you got to talk to the Treeman.
	DALEY: Bye Treeman (laughter)
02:52:00:00	(Daley gets into Limo after being approached by Gerrardo)
	(Camera goes haywire as reporter makes fun of Columbia camera crew)

	(Treeman gives interview)
02:53:00:00	TM:  (already speaking) for the beautification of the city of Chicago 
(change camera)
02:53:05:00	TM: No, it doesnıt have $15 million
GUY(unintelligible)ŠThey have a bed for every homeless person in 
Chicago. 
TM:  They DO? There are 5,500 beds in the city of Chicago, there are 
25,000 people a night that do not have a place to sleep.  Because there are 
not enough beds.  There are more homeless people than that, but only that 
many people canıt get a bed.  Where are they supposed to sleep?  They 
canıt sleep in the park, they canıt sleep under Wacker, their stuff is 
destroyed, their belongings are destroyed, where they gonna go, what are 
they gonna do?  Theyıre right, they have a place to to live, they have a 
right to live, they vote. They can vote now, they can vote people in. They 
can vote people out. The object of it is, donıt forget homeless people they 
are veterans that served. I was a veteran, I served.  And I find no place to 
live.
	REPORTER:  What is your name sir?
	TM:  My name is anonymous tree.
	REPORTER:  Iım calling you Treeman.
	TM:  Thank you, no my name isnıt important, I speak for all homeless 
people in the city.
02:54:00:00	REPORTER:  Watch out for the dogs.
	TM:  Dogs donıt bite me. Thank you. 
	(Treeman goes with other to get into van)
	(CCH group leaves as two women say goodbye to Treeman)

02:55:04:00	(Treeman and crew are in van(
TM:  Iım alright, Iım ok, donıt worry about me.  
MAN: All right, (clapping everyone cheers)  Treeman, all right! NEXT 
STOPŠ.
TM:  He came over to the park and we were going along the fence, 
channel 2 was there right on topŠ watching me walk as he was on the 
other side of the fence, all the channels were there today.
MAN:  And he said ŒKeep planting those treesı and thatıs exactly what 
weıre doing this Saturday.
(yelling unintelligible)
MAN: Thatıs what we are going to say.
(yelling unintelligible)
TMŠPlant trees..We are going to plant them alright. 
MAN:  They are going to start publicizing them events
(Unintelligible)
MAN:  Who asked him that question?  Did you ask him that question?
02:56:00:00	(laughter and talking not clear)
	(Group discusses adding additional treemen and press until end of reel)
	MAN:  in the demonstration.  That he got up to early and left too early 
when we got there.  That means he didnıt get up too early and leave.. 
GIRLS: (Unintelligible)
MAN: They are growingŠ 
GIRLS: (Unintelligible)
MAN: well, well we are going to do it Saturday.  God that was fun.
Saturday when we plant the tree out front. 
TM:  Yeah of course the treemans gotta be there when you plant the tree. 
MAN:  Did you see the look on his face when he turned and the treemans 
standing there.  God what am I doing here that guy is nuts. 
TM:  Hey  (Unintelligible)is that all you got today
JULIE:  Yeah, that is it for today.
MAN: That is all that we know.
TM: That was awesome
Man: That was really awesome. 
TM: and Jerome you got it all?
JEROME: yeah
TM: already buddy I gotta see that
MAN: Did you see the one cop try to block the light?
02:57:00:00	TM:  Yeah. Yeah. 
		TM: (Unintelligible)
		(people in van discussing the day and the daley confrontation)
		(Mumbleing and broken audio)
02:58:00:00	(still shooting in the van on the way from the Daley confrontation)
		(Unclear to the conversation)
MAN: (Unclear)  We could always come dressed up as trees. (unclear), 
well who else was there?  Channel five andŠ(Unclear)
	DRIVER:  Well what is he saying?  I want to know what he is saying. 
Whats treeman is saying?
	MAN: (LAUGHTER)
	VANGIRL:Well when he first came over he was like we never got a 
picture of this guy. How did I miss this guy? Who is he?
	(they all start talking at once.)
	MAN: Well we talk to him  We talked to Andy Shaw yesterday at the 
demonstration.
02:59:00:00	MAN:  He saw treeman.  But he really didnıt want to do anything about it 
because we really didnıt have the presence	
	TM:  (unclear)  The tribune today.
	MAN:Then they saw the Tribune today. 
		(they all start talking over eachother) (UNCLEAR)
		Man The radio 
			(they all start talking over eachother) (UNCLEAR)
		TM:  Anybody look through the times. 
		MAN:  No, No. 
	MAN:  The one reporter ,was it that one guy from 44, the first guy that 
caught you, and (unclear)  Š What did he ask you?  He asked you why 
are you here? And everybody asked you your name its great that you donıt 
give your name.  I mean its like, Who is the treeman? Then he says I am a 
homeless man (unclear)  I speak for all homeless. 
		
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03:00:41:00	TREEMAN: He was a stronger leader but she just blew up and he said 
why do you ask me a question like that at this press conference? We are 
not talking about issues like this. Why donıt you ask me questions that 
mean something?  He blew up at uhm the guy from the daily news.
	SANDY: What question was that?
	TREEMAN: He asked him about oh he says how come your not he says 
how come youıre not living in the house you own on Longwood drive?  
03:01:00:00   When he was major you know he lived in Bridgeport area but he had a big 
beautiful home in Beverly Hills on Longwood Drive and he wouldnıt go 
out there because the people there would not uh at the time some 
supported him and some didnıt.  Remember Ed we talked about this that 
time he had a beautiful home.
	BLACKMAN:  (getting out of the van) inaudible They going to the field 
house.  They said uh what the hell.  Burning up in there. (closes the door)
03:02:16:00   John:  Mayor Daley this is at the press conference at the park (tv noise in 
background).  The treeman is following him. Weıre right in front of him. 
(laughing) You should see this.  He says thatŠinaudible.  (laughing) What 
if the Treeman was in your house?  Inaudible.  Pardon.  Ah, yeah I do.  
Fax it to me.  Do you have my fax number? 435-0198 Yeah, okay see you 
tomorrow Dave. (laughing) 
	T:  Watch this now.  Watch this.
	J:  WBEZ.  WBEZ? Inaudible.  (tv noise with the Treemanıs speech)
03:04:00:00   (laughing and clapping) And so I should call you Treeman?  (interrupting) 
and Charles says just call you Treeman.
	T:  Then you know what he told this young man.  Get a hot of this tree 
canıt get his camera to work.  Heıs geting a shot of this.  (inaudible) 
03:05:00:00   (clapping)  The mayor told us we have to plant more trees.
	T:  More trees.  He said plant more trees.  (several people talking at once)
	J:  Exactly what weıre going to do.  (everyone leaves the conference 
room)  part of the picturesŠ(inaudible).
	MICHAEL:  Thatıs funny we got somebody for pulse too.
	J:  (inaudible)
	MICHAEL:  Was it pulse? Okay, I call him.  Ah, got that.
	J:Š(inaudible)23rd Ballpark.
	MICHAEL:  Thatıs ballpark.  J:  I mean itıs a little bit more.  MICHAEL:  
Man, yeah.  J:  See you in the morning.  MICHAEL:  Yeah, yeah.  
UhmŠ.  J:  What were you going to say?  MICHAEL:  I thought I needed 
to talk to you about your assignments.  J:  Iım good to go.
03:06:02:00   JOHN:  Oh, Michael that is to complete in other words we already weıve 
already put out the majority of it.  This we already put out this we already 
sent them some money cause I think I signed the check for that.  
MICHAEL:  Right, right.  J:  so this is the complete list?  MICHAEL:  
yeah, we need we need more postage for the rest of the bulk mail. These 
should be going today.  J:  Okay.  (phones ringing.  John walks away)
03:07:00:00    JOHN:  (picks up the phone and dials)  Mark Russo please John Donahue 
(pause) Hey Mark.  How are ya doing?  They just did a great hit over at uh 
Ecket Park uh Daley was there with Caps and uh (laugh) the Treeman 
followed him right to his car and all the media was in his car.  And Daley 
kept saying, oh I love trees, I love trees (laughs)  Then they said what 
about when they went to your house? He said, uh yeah, I got up early I 
like trees (laugh) as heıs getting in his car he says keep planting those 
tress. (laughs)  Anyway, Andy Shy had a big ah ah big conversation with 
him on tv yeah he said
03:08:00:00   Whatıs your name?  He says whatıs your name. Iım the anonymous tree. 
He says, Okay, Iıll just call you Treeman (laughs)  So yeah, yeah its great.  
Anyway, I called you about this press release weıre gonna do our first tour 
at noon on Monday.  The reason we are doing it is because the Baltimore 
Sun called and I locked her into that tour.  At noon weıre going to build 
around that you could mention that and the other hum.  No weıll have, 
weıll have people there.  Alright. 
03:08:47:00    Right, right. Well, there's a thing called Chicago plan 21, and it was started  
actually back 20 yrs ago. And it's really gentrified the North Loop and the 
West Loop. And our offices are in the South Loop and for a long time 
there have been abandoned buildings around us and all of a sudden the 
mayor moved into the South Loop into a place called Central station, 
which interestingly enough was the station where blacks would come up 
and get off the train being freed from slavery and then would just go a 
little bit south to stay at the Bronzeville Y and some of the hotels here on 
Wabash.  
03:09:47:00     And a lot of people especially homeless and very low-income people have 
made the South Loop their home. including 700 people in a shelter, Pacific 
Garden Mission. And approximately 1000...pardon?
	(Digresses about Henry Horner homes) Henry Horner homes are actually 
in the West Loop and that's an interesting thing too because we fought a 
long battle in the West Loop when Chicago's Skid Row was torn down.  
And we initially won the Chicago Low Income Housing Trust Fund to 
which Presidential Towers, who built on Skid Row, got breaks from the 
city and tax-exempt bonds to do it, built 4 luxury high-rises and were 
originally held to 20% of the units for low and moderate income and they 
were exempt by Dan Rostenkowski in a tax bill in Congress. We fought 
for 10 yrs and finally got 
03:10:47:00     them to chip into the low income housing trust fund on a regular basis, 7% 
of the units at Presidential Towers for low very low income people and 
1000 project-based section 8 certificates to have our allies build housing 
for the homeless...and that's being implemented as we speak. But it was 
like ten years in the West Loop and...
	...now it's happening in the South Loop and we're saying it's time to draw 
a line in the sand, and our South loop campaign is for development 
without displacement. And we're saying that if the mayor is willing to use 
tax-increment financing, to spiff up his neighborhood and that means for 
the next twenty-three years the increment in taxes won't go to the schools 
or the parks or public transportation, 
03:11:47:00     we're saying then that a portion of that money should be used to preserve, 
rehab or replace 1000 single room occupancy units in the South Loop and 
build at least 600 new housing units for homeless families which is the 
fastest growing population among the homeless.
	Well we have gotten two new single room occupancy hotels that are going 
to be built in South Loop, which is about 370 units, that are being built by 
our allies...Central City Housing Ventures and Lakefront SRO corporation 
but the 1000 units that are already here are in danger 
03:12:47:00     because of the zoning changes. They are hoping that somebody will buy 
these hotels, knock them down and do some up-scale economic 
development. And so we've lost about 3/4 of our single occupancy units 
already in Chicago and now we stand to lose more in the South Loop. And 
what we're saying is the mayor is talking about a mixed income 
community for other communities in Chicago, including Horner Homes 
and Cabrini Green, and we're saying well what about your own 
neighborhood, if you're proposing that for our neighborhood, what about 
your own neighborhood? Yes. Yes.
	And during the convention we know that he spent $12.3 million just on 
flower pots around the city and he's also in Crane's Chicago, 
03:13:47:00     the business magazine in Chicago,said that the tab is up around 180 mill. 
for spiffing up for the convention. And of course the city says all this stuff 
was in the works anyway, but Cranes is questioning that and we question 
it too, I mean, there is a lot of paint and fences and barriers and flowerpots 
going up and very little housing for people who need it.
	Well, I think that tourism is a valid way to raise money but shouldn't be at 
the cost of services and the needs of people.  I mean 
03:14:47:00     you know there was a woman who, last night, who had to swing her four 
children on kiddie swings so that they could get some sleep you know.  I 
mean there are 5500 shelter beds in Chicago but on a given night there are 
15,000 people homeless in the city of Chicago. And...
	That money is going to be spent on spreading showcase downtown further 
out and the neighborhoods are not going to see much of that money, and 
not be improved and what we're saying is if the money is going to be spent 
on the South Loop, then we should be part of that, and there will be more 
jobs. We're also in the campaign for living wage jobs in Chicago and we're 
saying that 50% of the jobs that are being developed in the South Loop: 
03:15:47:00     in service jobs, hotel jobs, then let people live close to their jobs and make 
them good employees by paying them a decent wage with benefits. And so 
we are actively as part of our campaign, looking for the jobs that are going 
to come out of this development as well. Well his father was an 
organizational boss and his base was in the community. And he had the 
troops. Daley, Richard Daley Jr., his base is the big high rolling 
developers; his base is not people but money. And he is very punishing 
and very vindictive. 
03:16:47:00     And its just the case in point that he's promoting a botanical park on 
Miegs Field, which is the small airport in Chicago. And a lot of businesses 
are against it because executives can fly in and out very easily, but they're 
all afraid to speak out, and that was the point made in Crane's business. 
Now Crane's business is not this wild magazine, this is the business 
magazine in Chicago and it made the point of the fact that people are 
afraid to speak out because Daley controls so much through these high 
rolling upscale developers in Chicago that are making moneyhand over 
"foot" ??? <---mumbles. Because he has ways of punishing people through 
zoning, cutting down subsidies, just for instance, people who provide 
03:17:47:00     services to the homeless, he has sent word out that nobody could go on 
vacation during the convention and to keep the homeless people at home, 
because we promote our demonstration etc it's going to be hard to get 
people out because those people have the word already, and if 
they...right......right. And if they go against that their funding will be cut 
off.
03:18:15:00	J: Are you going to fly one of these things? Superman flew! Huh?(laughs)
	TR: I don't know. I just don't know what to tell Jay Leno next time he 
calls, how I much I want it. (laughs)
	(a third party turns on speakerphone)
	3rd: Well I'm going to leave this up with John and Treeman okay, and I'll 
put you on speaker, here you go.
	Q: Hello?
	J: Hello.
	Q: Hi is this John?
	J: Yeah
	Q: How are you doing?
	J: Okay Gordon.
	Q: Great, and is Treeman with you?
	TR: Yes he is.
	J: Treeman's here.
	Q: What's your name?
	TR: Well my name is anonymous Tree and I remain anonymous because 
I'm speaking for both homeless men, women and children‹and my name 
really, no disrespect to you, is unimportant I'm just the Treeman.
03:19:15:00     Q: So I saw the pictures in today's tribune.
	TR & J:  Uh huh.
	Q: And uh, I guess, I have a feel of what you're doing, but why don't you 
fill in some of the details of how you decided to do the campaign,and....
	Q: ...how long has it been you been working on this issue? 3,4 yrs?
	John: Probably 2-3 yrs. we've been working on this campaign and it's 
actually a campaign that we started with the Presidential Towers in the 
West Loop against gentrification. You know Presidential Towers was built 
on the old Skid Row, destroyed 2500 units of housing and pushed the poor 
out of the West Loop and it took us 10 yrs to get some units of Presidential 
Towers and some resolution to that problem that in the West Loop, but we 
decided to draw a line in the sand in the South Loop and say, if the mayor 
is willing to move in and spend 
03:20:15:00     city dollars to the tune of $250 million dollars in his own neighborhood 
then the people who live here already should get housing and jobs on a 
priority basis.  And the reason that we're using the symbol of a tree is 
when the 1968 convention happened, then-mayor Richard Daley said 
about those protesters, "they don't plant trees..."
	Q: That's right.
	J: Right?
	Q:Uh-huh. What trees did they plant?
	J:  "What trees do they plant?"And then as you know Tom Haydon was 
going to plant a tree with the mayor and then they didn't do it etc. right? 
There's the symbol again and then the fact that they spent $12.3 mil on 
planters, flowers and trees.  
03:21:15:00     We came up with the Treeman who says:
	TR: [reads from press release]  The Treeman says that if the mayor can 
afford to spend 12.3 million dollars to beautify the city of Chicago for one 
week for the Democratic Convention by putting flowers and trees along 
Randolph and other streets. Why can't he stay to his commitment of 
helping homeless people ....(audio goes in and out)you know heıs 
committed to a mixed income community in his own south loop 
neighborhood...that's what he says, but you know he rejected plans to 
improve 186 affordable units at the St. James SRO just one block from his 
home. And you know it's just that there's homeless people like myself, are 
tired of sleeping under Wacker drive and in shelters when all this 
money...and I mean I know they do some things but they're not doing 
enough, you know I'm not saying that they're not doing anything because 
that's not the proper statement, but they're not doing enough, you know?
	Q: Well you guys have had at least a couple of victories especially 
recently right?
	J:  Yeah, well have they agreed to build two single occupancy hotels in the 
South Loop...
03:22:15:00     Q: Right.
	J: one by Central City Housing Ventures, and one by, uhm, Lakefront 
SRO, which will be about 370 units.
	Q: Which I know you guys take at least partial credit for basically 
scarying them so much that...
	J: The deals wouldn't have happened without our advocacy efforts they 
wouldnıt have happened. Theyıve also, we've also been able to stop the 
vacate order at the Roosevelt hotel and w got the city to give the St James 
Hotel $100,000 to hard wire alarm it so that people would be, be able to 
sleep in a safer condition.  
	Q: $100,000 to hard wire alarm it?	
	J: Right. You know the program that we helped the city develop under 
the..after the Paxton hotel fire?
	Q:Right.
	J: We finally got them to free up some money to do it at the St. James and 
some of the Lakefront SRO buildings,
	J: but the single room occupancy hotel is100,000 units are still
03:23:15:00     an endangered species in the South Loop because they've been zoned for 
commercial and office use. So the city although they themselves won't 
destroy these hotels, are hoping that some high-rolling developer will buy 
them, destroy them and then build strip malls and uhm, you know Whole 
foods etc. 
	Q:Right.
	J: Right
	Q: Um...
	J: But the Treeman has a saying that he says:
	TR:  The saying is if I dress up like a tree mayor Daley will you care about 
me because he cares more for trees and flowers than he does for homeless 
people.
	Q: So Treeman 
	TR: Yes.
	Q: Tell me about yourself.
	TR: About myself? 
	Q: Yes.
	TR: What would you like to know?
	Q: Well, uhm first of all how did you get sucked into wearing the tree 
suit?
03:24:15:00     TR:  It was an idea that came up in the homeless people in the community 
wanted a spokesman, and so we decided that what would be nice would be 
because he loves trees, why doesn't the tree be a spokesman for the 
homeless community ‹and so I volunteered to do it and I am glad that I 
did because I am homeless and I am one of the voices that wants to be 
heard.
	Q: How uhm, how did you hook up with the coalition?
	TR: I met the coalition during a voter registration drive for homeless 
people, when I saw what they stood for and what they did, I wanted to be 
part of it because here I was a homeless person registering to vote, with a 
bunch of other men, women and children who there at this rally, and I 
thought "My Gosh, this is really a neat thing, here I am homeless, and I 
can vote, here I am homeless and I can do some volunteer work for some 
organization that's fighting for my rights and the rights of other people.
	Q: How long have you been homeless?
	TR: I've been homeless for almost 6 months.
03:25:15:00     Q: Are you from Chicago originally?
	TR:  I'm originally from Chicago, was born and raised in Chicago, went to 
school here.
	Q: Let me think for a second. So tell me what the rest of the plans are, this 
is not coming out for awhile so if you can tell me what's going on and it's 
not going to show up anywhere, what other rights do you plan?
	TR: Are you talking about John or me?
	Q: Whichever.
	TR: Go ahead John.	
	J: Well we are going to follow the mayor around as we did yesterday, we 
ambushed him at HH homes, and today at Ekhardt Park at a CAPS event, 
It'll be probably on Andy Shaw's segment tonight on channel 7. A lot of 
the press was there.
	Q: Are there specific demands the Treeman is making?
	J: Well the specific demands are uhm, put your money where your mouth 
is, make the South Loop a mixed income community, 
03:26:15:00     which means preserve, rehab, or replace the 1000 units of single room 
occupancy rooms and produce 600 units of housing for homeless women 
with children.
	Q: What was the thing before the produce 600 units?
	J: 1000 single room occupancy hotel rooms, and 1000 SRO units and 600 
family units in the South Loop.
	Q: Got it. So a total of 1600 units of housing is your goal?
	J: Right.
	Q: Additional, not counting what they're putting in now.
	J: Plus 50% of the jobs.
	Q: Right, to build all this stuff.
	J: Right, right. And we could count the 370 units...
	Q: So part actually you're a third of, are those all SRO units?
	J: Those are all SRO units.
	Q: So you're a third of the way towards to that total.
	J: Right.
03:27:15:00    Q:Alright. Well let me think that probably just about covers it.
	J: Okay.
	Q: Now could you do me, there's two things, really can you fax me a copy 
of your flyer from yesterday?
	J: Sure.
	Q: And the other thing is, did you guys, Gerado said maybe you took the 
photos today?
	J: Yeah.
	Q: Could you send me some?
	J: Sure
	Q: Or I'll tell you what, you're probably getting them developed now.
	J: Well, we have.  What do you want a photo of Treeman? We got it.
	Q: Oh yeah?
	J: Should we faxed that to ya?
	Q: The picture I would like to take and give it back to you in a few weeks
	J: Okay, how are you going to get it?
	Q: How about if I come down right now and get it?
	J: Come on and get it.
	Q: Alright, in fact you don't have to fax the flyer, I'll just come on over.
	J: Yeah come on over.
	Q: Okay I'll see you in about 25-35 minutes
	J: Alright.
	Q: Thanks.
	J: Yep.
	Q:Bye John.
	(hangs up)
	J: Where are those photos
	TR: Judy's got them, remember you gave them all to Judy?
	J: I gave them back to Judy, right?
	TR: Yeah I'll tell her.
03:28:15:00     J: So we should have some of those ready when this guy comes over. 
(John walks around in office.)
03:28:40:00     JOHN: (on phone) Right. Okay. Great. Okay bye.
	(hangs up) they're going to "clean" under Wacker Dr. tomorrow at 7:00 
and we have gone.  We have a suit against the city on this and they have to 
follow certain procedures, give warning, let people move their stuff. Our 
problem has been that uhm they want to clean on both sides of the street in 
some parts and they only plant signs on one side of the street and if 
somebody takes too much time, they get a little nasty and they donıt ask if 
anything is unattended, they just throw it away. so the judge did not give 
us a temporary restraining order, but he said lets see how the procedures 
work and weıll come back in two months, 
03:29:40:00     and he said you can come back earlier if something happens. So it's really 
important for us to document what is happening down there and observe 
and be aware of what the uhm rules should be and if they can be 
improved... 
INTERVIEWER: So tomorrow night is an official visit?
J: and usually they clean in the morning, but for some reason they are 
going to clean at 7 PM tomorrow night andŠ 
INTERVIEWER: and we know this?
J: we know this, the City has called our lawyer, they have to call our 
lawyer to let them that they're doing it so it would be interesting to go 
down there. .. I am going to go down there tomorrow early just to see if 
the signs are up, they have to post them 12 hrs before
	INTERVIEWER: What do the signs say?  
	J: Street cleaning, off-the-street cleaning...Now it's real interesting, they 
don't 
03:30:40:00     go down the street cleaning, they go straight to where the encampments 
are, they clean there and there and there, but they don't do street cleaning. 
so it really is harassment, but at least they're saying people can move their 
stuff and move it back again, they are not saying you have to leave, so.
03:31:08:00	Meeting with TV blaring.
03:32:08:00     "                                       "
03:32:30:00	FORMER CHICAGO SEVEN MEMBER: (standing in large hall) I chair 
the  Department of Environmental Health Sciences: I direct the Center for 
Occupational Environmental Health.  I direct the Pollution Prevention 
Education Research Center.  So I'm the big important guy. 
INTERVIEWER 1:  Let me ask you something.  I'm just curious.  I mean 
you yourself have an important relationship with (inaudible). 
	CHICAGO SEVEN: I think activism starts when you can bring people 
together uhm in ways that make sense to them.The war made sense to 
them..The civil rights movement in the south did. 
INTERVIEWER 1: (garbled) 
CHICAGO SEVEN: So in the sixties, you had things that captured 
people's imaginations.  Today you still have things that capture people's 
imagination,
 03:33:30:00    but you also have this counter-balancing force of, I think of extreme 
anxiety about what they're going to do when they graduate from school.  
So, I have all these graduate students.  Who are Master's level students 
who are terrified they have to learn anything difficult, because it might 
affect them getting a job. (Rubs mouth with hand) And I think that the 
general culture (raises both hands and makes pushing down
	motions) is very depressing and stressful in terms of whether the society 
has meaningful work for them.  See, we never had that (right hand broad 
gesture) (garbled).  The sixties was a very rich period in America.  I never 
felt once in ten years, thought about having to get a job.  Never played in.  
I meanŠwe always sort of figured there was jobs out there.  
03:34:30:00     Well, you don't have that anymore..And so..I don't I don't think anybody's 
idealism has change a bit.  Umm everybody here is pretty young.. Uh 
everybody's idealistic..Everybody would like to do things.  Everybody'd 
like to improve the environment.  One, there's no simple organization, 
like, like ways to do that.  There's no coalitions that bring people together.  
And then there's this other over-riding stress.  And so, how you recreate, 
uh new kind of demonstrations and actions.  I think it
	could be done overnight.  But it will take conditions that will do that.  And 
I can't define that.  My son, uh, you know has already been involved in 
anti-one eighty seven demonstrations in California.  On his own.  
INTERVIEWER: How old is he?  
CHICAGO SEVEN: Thirteen.  He was in his first demonstration when he 
was eleven (chuckles, beams with pride).  And it wasn't because of me.  
He knew that there was something wrong with 
03:35:30:00     the immigration issue.  So these kids are all there.  It's what they don't 
have is what we had in the sixties was some organizational forums that 
enabled us to function on.  You know, I think that's the  social isolation of 
Americans is a serious problem.  So people tend to operate on their own 
windows, if you will.  And we have to break away from that.  I think, I 
think some of Clinton's stuff is good,
                        in that respect.  But then he had to have this ninety-four Republican 
Congress come in and , and ever since then all he's been trying to do is 
survive.  It's not good. So. 
INTERVIEWER: Two quick, quick questions, if I may.
03:36:16:00     CHICAGO SEVEN:  Chicago.. I smoke now (smiles).  So in many ways, 
this is a reunion of people who still see themselves as, as relevant.  But we 
also should know that new generations of kids will have to create their 
own time.  It can't .My son can't recreate my time.  It's gotta be
	his time.  Right now, he's mainly interested..in surfing off the Malibu 
coast, but ah, but very socially involved so. 
INTERVIEWER: You spend uh, sorry go ahead.
INTERVIEWER TWO: (garbled)..your own son? 
CHICAGO SEVEN: I..I think a few things.  And I don't necessarily have 
it all thought out.  I think courage is important.  Lots of times you're going 
to have to make judgements that can affect your lives.  
03:37:16:00    My life has been profoundly affected by being in Chicago seven.  Here I 
was this super scientist and ever since that time, I've had to prove myself, 
because people immediately think of you as a quote (makes quote mark 
gesture) political scientist.  When in fact the integrity of science is one of 
the most dear things to me that there is.  So the Chicago
	has profoundly affected all of us.  I would much prefer to spend an hour 
with you some time and tell you what I've done since.  I do all sorts of 
really good things and nobody knows nor really cares.  And that the uh so 
tragedy of it is that you're always remembered by that period.  But aside 
from that, I think to take chances and have courage is really important.  I 
think uh, I think we could've done better with humility rather than as much 
arrogance as we had.  And I think that's important.   I think, I think, uh, 
03:38:16:00     trying to umm be completely dedicated to uh the sort of social values that 
Abby exemplified.  In terms of trying to improve life for people.  Uh, I 
think Abby was unique in our experience and and now I think they have to 
learn a lot of skills and work, work their asses off because
	most people have lost a lot of skills we know that, that uh it takes 
something to organize a demonstration.  It takes knowledge to run a quote 
mimeograph machine, which we don't do anymore.  But uh, you know that 
kind of concept.  So, I think that, I think that the kids need, I also think the 
kids need a focus and they'll join. 
INTERVIEWER 1: In sixty-eight, you had Vietnam was the focus and all 
the issues.  Right now what is their focus and if not what could be is a 
focus what is it?  CHICAGO SEVEN: Well, uh, I don't think there is a 
focus.  
03:39:16:00     I think maybe the welfare stuff over the next few years may create one. 
Environment will create one.  See, the environment's gonna create one 
(screen goes black).        
03:39:33:00	INTERVIEWER: (interview at St. James hotel, sitting down) So where are 
we right now kevin? 
KEVIN: Right now we are at the St. James Hotel at 1234 S. Wabash. This 
is my room 422 ah I was homeless up until 7/13 of 96. I went into a 
program which deals with people with depression suicidal thoughts stuff 
like that so the requirement for, for me to stay here is to take my 
medication go to groups like Baileys Living twice a week. Ah and just you 
know talk to someone you know when I feel like the medication is not 
working let
	the doctor know she can either increase my dosage or change my 
medication to something different. Ah this this is mines you know its 
03:40:33:00     its alright I just sprayed for roaches so that why you don't see too many, 
but other than that you know it's better than sleeping in the allies and 
missions and different shelters like that, Ah it's just something I can call 
mines for the first time in a long time you know and I'm pretty excited 
about that you know uh like I said it's just a room but it's got a bed and tv 
you know other than that i'm pretty happy about the arrangment I have 
with Threshold Assesement. 
INTERVIEWER: So living ah here at the St. James what's ah, how's that, 
howıs that fit in how's that fit into your future? You know how you know 
what does it mean? 
KEVIN: well, what it means is for me that if I can manage here for 
another month or two then I'm 
03:41:33:00     going to move onto another place that's better that's nicer...nicer 
neighborhood and  what I'm doing now I'm trying to put some 
managability back into my life. I worked with this agency ah I worked 
with this agency here....(el passes) 
INTERVIEWER: Let's do that part over because of the train. So what 
what how's this living in the St. James helping you? 
KEVIN: By living in the St. James it's it's ah for right now trying to put 
some structure back into my life some managability which uh my life has 
been unmanagable for a long time because I got to the point where didn't 
nobody cared. I didn't care first of all about myself that's how I ended up 
on the streets and doing the things 
03:42:33:00     I've that t've done led up to a lot of different situations where either people 
didn't want me around certain people or I didn't want to be around so so 
but living here has given me a sence of security that ah now that I'm able 
to wake up in the mornings and go out and look for gainful employment 
which right now for different things I have going on in my life that it's 
okay for me to work at a agency like this which is all workers its a 
temporary agency which pays $4.25 an hour so I feel comfortable with 
starting off slow so I've worked from anywhere 2-3 days a week with them 
that's enough for me to feed myself and get paid once a week which is 
every Friday and ah, right now its feeling good today I just made another 
accomplishment. I applied for a telephone... you know so that's goin' to be 
a bill that I'm going to be responsible for 
03:43:33:00     and its going to be like to see how can I keep up, you know my bills and 
when I pay them on time and stuff like that and you know right now I'm 
kinda excited about trying to get back into society as a functioning  person 
and stuff like that ah, I said like December. I said like December I said 
like December when I got out of California's Correctional Facility and 
moved back to Chicago , which is my native land ah, I didn't see this in 
the future.  I couldn't see down the line because I was parolled to the 
streets with no place to live, no income and I kinda feel like 
03:44:33:00     I was just a victim you know ah, more than a problem ah reason I said 
victim because for 2 years and 9 months of my life I was housed, I was fed 
you know I didn't have to worry about anything but once they released me 
they released me back into the streets with no place to stay, no source of 
income so basically what they was telling me was we'll keep your cell 
cause we know you'll be back. Ah, that's how the system is set up. But, me 
being the type of person that I am.  I consider myself a die hard ah I had 
gotten to the point a couple of months back that I really was ready to give
03:45:33:00     up and ah you know it's just through the grace of God and beautiful people 
that stepped in and intervened in my life they saw something in me that I 
didn't see in myself and ah I still trying to figure that out, but other than 
that it's a day by day process. You know the place where I'm living now is, 
the management is great its some of the employees that work here...(train 
heard in background) they can be very annoying and frustrating at times 
like this morning I came in late last night I worked 14 hours yesterday and 
I come in late last night so I thought I left me key in my door I come in 
take a bath start reading a book and fell asleep books still on the bed that I 
was reading and ah i went downstairs to talk to the lady I said well I think 
I misplaced my 
03:46:33:00     key I said I might of left it in my locker did anybody turn the key in or 
anything like that? She said, well no you have got to pay $5 to get another 
key we don't have an extra key. I'm like how come you don't have two 
keys, you know this is a hotel. You know you should have 2 keys I don't 
think it's fair for me to give you $5 cause you only have one key but going 
back to thinking, calming down thinking well retracing my steps of what I 
did last night prior up to me going to sleep I took a bath I watched a little 
tv and I read a book so that's where the key was you know, but ah so I'm 
calm a little bit about that, but the lady herself she has a problem 
	always taught to respect older people you know and. (end)
03:47:22:00     INTERVIEWER: If this SRO weren't here right now at this point of your 
life, or the SRO weren't around. 
KEVIN: I'd probably still be in the streets, still in the shelter
	if SRO's or programs like what I'm in , which is Threshold, ah dealing ah 
with people like myself because it is very depressing out there on the 
streets when you have to sleep in an alley or have to sleep in a gangway, 
you lay down in these places or the park you lay down in these places you 
don't know if you're going to wake up someone could come through and 
slit your throat get hit by a car....I mean a lot of things could happen to you 
out there on the streets and I think it's great that programs like this exist
03:48:22:17     because it gives a person like myself that want to make a geographical 
change in his life or her life that they are given an opportunity
	to do so.  Ah people have a stigma about homeless people they figure 
everybody they see homeless is a : drug addict , or alcoholic, or just don't 
want anything, don't want help they figure that it's help out there, but 
people are not utilizing the resources that are out there. But that's true in 
certain incident because ah....(time code break). nation, very it's hitting 
everybody. It's hitting everyone's doorstep and 
03:49:22:20     by this being election year I've been watching the Republican Convention 
I haven't heard them once say, speak on anything all they are talking about 
is cutting the taxes by %15 for the working people, middle class, the rich, 
but not one speaker not one senator, one mayor, no one has said anything 
about the homeless population the problem that we have in this country as 
far as dealing with their situation. Ah, by me being on both sides of the 
fence i can say cause I didn't wake up one day just was homeless I used to 
be in the working class and stuff, but by me being on both sides of the 
fence now that my long term goal is 
03:50:22:00     to once I get situated is to try to get with some type of group that even if 
we take one person off the streets, like year or what have you that's my 
long term goal and to show them that someone out there really cares. You 
know I think thats important ah...I don't think that.....(time code breaks).  
Ah, just like I mentioned before with the voter registration yeah people out 
here that are registered voters but they feel that what they goin' to go vote 
for for somebody that snatch the rug  from up under them once they get in 
office don't so they figure their vote counts we don't vote, you know ah, 
down the line 
03:51:22:00     I hope someone address this  this issue that and make them aware that 
their vote counts. That they need to be heard . They need to make more 
appearance to the newspapers, to the magazines, to the people in general 
so that the people in Washington will have no other choice but to deal with 
this problem instead of keep sweeping and sweeping and sweeping and 
sweeping it farther and farther under the rug.
	Ah, they have to address this. Resources open as many doors as they can. 
because if not they're goin' to be in worser shape than they was
	INTERVIEWER: Are you going to vote in the 96' election. 
KEVIN: Ah, I don't have a right to vote because ah once 
03:52:22:00     your incarcerated and go to the penitentiary ah the right is taken away 
from you, but as a citizen as a American citizen that I'm goin' to try to 
make sure that most many people as I can get together and help them vote 
so the vote can be heard. I'm goin' to try to do that.  
INTERVIEWER: How are you going to do that? 
KEVIN: Well, right now I've being working on ah, on I've been talking to 
a few guys at Pacific Garden Mission.  I've been trying to find out where 
they're going to go vote down in the downtown area even if I have to work 
at the polling places pass out literature, explain, display to them how to 
work the polling machines and stuff like that.  Ah, give them the insight 
on who I think rather they vote democratic or Republican really doesn't 
make me any difference but 
03:53:22:00     who I think the best candidate is and but I think they should do in the 
future for the homeless people ah, so I'm umm digging up as
	much information as I can in these short months. (End)
03:53:38:00	KEVIN ( in SRO halls entering his apartment--no talking, music playing 
in background from another room?)
	KEVIN ( standing in apartment interview -when he starts talking) And this 
is my little nest haven right here this is my room, this is my television, 
here dresser, bed you know I like it's pretty nice it's just got a bunch of 
roaches but other than that I like it it's better than sleeping in alleys and 
stuff like that. I have my private bathroom, which a lot of rooms don't 
have. Ah, that is about it basically, ah 
03:54:38:00     SRO and the different programs.
	this room was made possible for me so I could get off the streets. 
	(time code break)
	KEVIN (still in room): Other than that basically this is it. 
INTERVIEWER: How much do you pay a month.
 	KEVIN: $440 a month ah,
	which is a little steep for this place, ah but it's better than nothing ah, me 
personally I only pay $60 a week on my rent and Threshold pays the rest. 
They pay the other 50. Ah, which is a great help you know, without them I 
wouldn't be able to do it. 
INTERVIEWER: Ah, briefly tell me some of the things you do to make, 
make the money to survive. 
KEVIN: Ah, basically what I do is Friday, Saturday, Sunday I wash car 
windows, clean cars, scrub 
03:55:38:00     car tires stuff like that. Ah, during the week when I don't have to go to 
meetings and stuff like that I have appointments I go to work at a day 
labor agency, ah which is  all work this is what you call a work ticket and 
it is a 7 day work ticket which goes day by day.  And ah, they pay $4.25 
an hour and it pretty much helps you know go along with the income. I do 
get when I put it together I'm able to have a little balance living in my life 
umm you know without places like Day Labor, places like SRO's, ah 
subsidized housing without places like that, places like this wouldn't be 
available. 
03:56:35:00	KEVIN (bathroom talking): This is the bathroom here, which consists of a 
tub, a toilet, a sink, a mirror, but ah it's alright. It's private I don't have to 
share with anyone. 
INTERVIEWER: What are you going to say about your experience living 
here when you're out of here? 
KEVIN:  My experience living here right now it's alright ah a lot of 
activity goes on in this building, but you know me being the person that I 
am I am a loner. So I don't mix with crowds. I hate crowds so I don't have 
no problems. You know ah I'm basically in and out of here. I come in 
sleep and watch TV eat and whatever I have to do and basically other than 
that I'm usually not you know, I'm not a problem for the people around 
here and they're not a problem for me. You know the management here is 
great so, and that makes a whole lot of a difference 
03:57:35:00     and other than that it's not bad. Some more roaches. Roaches bad in here.
03:57:48:00	KEVIN going downstairs and leaving building, jump cuts of talking, audio 
not too good.


004


04:00:40:00     City worker walks on lower Wacker 
04:01:40:00     (City workers cleaning Lower Wacker Drive with high powered hoses)                                                                                                              
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04:04:50:00    (preparation of TREEMAN outside van)
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04:06:33:00	TREEMAN: (walking down street with crew)  How's the arms look?
	MAN WITH CAM: Good.
	DONOHUE: Watch behind you; there's a cab coming up.
	GIRL: This guy in this cab is like, 'what's up with the dude?'
	TREEMAN: Something's getting me in my side here.  Is there a branch 
going into my side?
	MAN W/ CAM: Yeah, yeah.  Yeah, I'll move it. Right here?
	TREEMAN: Yeah. We got the fires.
04:07:39:00	COP 1: You can't go no further than this
	DONOHUE: No?
	COP 1: Yeah.  This as far as you can go.  You can talk to everybody when 
they come out, but this as far as you can go, okay?  Do whatever you can 
do to cooperate
DONOHUE: .That was the word I was given
	RODGREGEZ: .This officer here said we could stand here.
	COP 1: Stay at this corner.  Stay at this corner.  That's all I ask you to do, 
okay?  And we'll have no problem.  Stay at the corner.
	COP 1: The police, the police are nervous as it is they don't need no 
problems, today.
	DONOHUE: We, we just, we just wanted to try to get close to the mayor, 
to get him to notice.
	COP 1: Okay, but see.
04:08:33:00     DONOHUE: We don't want, we don't want to mess with. We want to be 
able to take advantage of the mayor's speech.
	COP 1: I understand that.  Like I explained to some of your colleges, on 
they're way out they can speak to anyone they want to speak to.
	DONOHUE: I want to speak to the mayor.
	COP 1: He'll come right past here.  He'll come right this way.  There's 
only one way out.  There's only one way out.
	DONOHUE: Really?
	COP1: There's only.  Yeah, he's gonna come out right this way.  There's 
only one way out.
	DONOHUE: He not gonna go down the alley or something?
	COP 1: Everybody's got to come out this way.
	COP 2: You can't go down here.
	DONOHUE:  You're stopping the tree from walking.
	COP 2: Trees don't care.
	COP 3: We'll be glad to help you, but only the press can get through
		DONOHUE: We won't disrupt the press conference.
COP 3: We understand that, but that's the orders that was given to us and
04:09:19:00     we have to abide by them. (COPS and TREE GANG standing around)
04:10:19:00     (Static shots of people standing around.  Bad audio.)
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04:11:36:00	TREEMAN: Right there, across the street, that's his bodyguard.
	GIRL: Wow.  You can see four.  Pretty impressive.
04:12:00:00	OFF SCREEN VOICE: ...and the housing's gonna' be air conditioned.  
This is a pretty important occasion represents the mayor indicate.
04:12:15:00	OFF SCREEN VOICE: I'd like to mention the organization.The Berger 
Association has HUD House and Interprise Development are gonna be in 
construction soon with 45 scattered seculants and the Near West 
Development Co. along with MCL and ASP Co. are going to be building 
35 scattered.
	OFF SCREEN VOICE: What is, we believe the nation's most innovative 
and promising job training and skill program.
04:13:12:00	(Donohue and blond boy mumbling)
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	DONOHUE: (To treeman) If we do it right out here, we're not disrupting 
what their doing.  And there's no access out that way; there's several cars 
there so.
04:14:40:00	MAN SPEAKING: (man on podium at Henry Horner Homes)...housing   
and just as importantly to help pay for the infastructure because the whole
                         concept here is to restore the street grid and make this super block a part 
of the, uh, neighbourhood.  I'd also like to thank Ernist Gate and the rest of 
the West Haven community, uh, this is a community who, while we, uh, 
had some differences that have to be ironed out, uh, they have always been 
responsive and willing to work with us in terms of accomplishing 
something that we hope to be improvements to the entire neighbourhood 
and we're very appreciative of it, uh, the program that, I'd also like to 
thank Ron Patterson, you've heard a lot about the program that will help 
our residence get jobs.  Mr. Patterson had a lot to do with it, uh, I oh to 
would like to thank, BPI as the plantiff of the control case and Habitat as 
the reciever for their assistance in this and of course, lastly, uh, but 
certainly not least and perhaps most important, I'd like to thank 
04:15:40:00     Mrs. Vaughn and the residence here who have undergone the conditions 
of Horner, who have began this struggle and who are begining to see it 
today.  Lastly I just want to make two points, one, of course, this is about 
good housing but as Mr. Gates says, as the mayor said, uh, this is more 
than housing, this is really about a neighbourhood and for us, I guess it 
means two things: that we were here a year ago when the demolishings 
occur and that we're here today with the beginings of, uh, housing coming 
back, that this is evidence of the credibility that CHA and HUD hope to 
have in the community as we do similar things in other existing public 
housing communities.  And lastly, although, even today, even with this 
start, it still seems almost oximoronic to say it, but, I would like to believe 
we're working to a time 
04:16:40:00     in which to concepts of CHA and good neighbour can actually be said in 
the same sentence.  Uh, this is the down-payment, uh, on that effort.  
Lastly, it's really my pleasure to introduce someone who not only has 
profoundly inpacted on, on, on the way that I look at public housing, when 
I came to HUD I'd already run the New York City Housing Authoritys and 
Los Angelos Housing Authority, uh, you know, I thought I knew some