Revised 11/07/05                 ATHINA TRANSCRIPTS                                   	101                                                   	

DESCRIPTION: Reel 101 covers the preparation for the baby shower, and then a phone call where Athina discovers the baby’s father wants to come.  Much of this phone conversation is shot while Athina is behind her closed bedroom door, yet she is still micced clearly with a LAV.

01:00:00	MOS Shots of photos, toys, chairs for party stacked up.
01:01:53 - 05:49:00	
MOS Wide shot, slow zoom into Athina leaning on table. 
	Various shots Crystal and Athina prep kitchen table.
01:05:50 	CU low angle. Athina discusses with filmmaker can’t film in Dr. office
01:06:33	 – sound cuts out XCU Athina’s eyes, CU Athina smiling.  Cables in foreground as Athina talks (MOS)
01:08:35	Exterior Athina’s house, day, snowy. Various angles.  CU on mailbox
01:09:40	CU Athina zooms out to wide with Crystal.  Both on couch watch TV.  Various angles on each.
01:11:37	Athina CU on phone TV on in background.  
01:12:10	ATHINA: (into phone) so all you guys are gonna come?  Yeah, um.  Mipa (Spelling?) called me.  He’s like I lost the invitation.  I know.  He’s like what time does it start.  Oh.  We’re waiting til 2:30 to put up the decorations.  I don’t know, 2:35.  (laughs).  Hmm.  Hmm. (laughs).  You’ll probably be like the first one here.  Knowing everybody (inaudible) 
01:13:08	ATHINA: What? I didn’t know you put on make up Lee (laughs).  (Lav cuts out, only camera microphone)  Well Destiny is coming right?  She told me she was.  Ok. Hold on.  Hello?  Yeah? Huh?  Uh there isn’t.  There isn’t a theme. No.  Hello.  Yeah.  I don’t know.  
01:13:57	ATHINA: yeah.  What do you mean? 
(Phone conversation continues through 15:09)
01:15:09	MOS  Wide shot Crystal and Athina, camera follows them down hall into kitchen.  Put up streamers together
01:18:37	Filmmaker explains audio.
Phone rings.  Athina answers.
ATHINA: hello? Yeah? Yeah?  Nothing.  It’s not that it’s just. (groans) I don’t think you’ll be able to come.  I mean, Vanessa to call me she told me that Nate was coming and I was like all right.  But.  All right bye. (hangs up)
01:19:54	CRYSTAL: Who was that? Justin?
ATHINA: No, somebody else.
Camera stays on Athina tight CU.
01:20:19	zoom out wide on Crystal and Athina
More prepping,
01:20:45 – 26:00
Athina dials phone.  Puts it down. Walks away down hall.  Camera follows to living room.  Crystal and Athina put up streamers in living room together. Athina directs Crystal where to put what.
01:26:06	Athina has minor Asthma attack.  Sits down. More streamers. Streamers in hallway.
01:30:20	Crystal in kitchen.  Phone rings.
CRYSTAL: Hello?  Yeah hold on a second.
Crystal hands Athina, who is in the next room dressing, the phone.
Crystal preps food in kitchen while Athina dresses in next room and talks on phone.  
01:32:15	Athina is micced while in the next room.  Visuals show Crystal prepping food still.  We hear Athina on the phone but don’t see her.
ATHINA: Yeah?  Because my mom’s gonna be hear.  So you know how that all works out. He doesn’t bel (inaudible)…I can’t talk about it right now.
01:32:33	No.  Yeah.  The problem is he doesn’t believe that it’s his.  (inaudible).  WHAT!  Then why doesn’t he… (sighs).  Since when is this?  What?  This is for my friends.  This is for my friends.  Yeah.  Yeah, basically.
01:33:19	I’m having a family one in a month.  Well, how can I put this?  He’s telling me he doesn’t think it's his.  Then why is he telling everyone that it’s his?
01:33:54	Then, then it’s, I don’t get it?  Then why is he telling me otherwise?
01:34:21	I mean yeah. Well, first he’s like yeah, it’s mine blah blah blah, and then Nah, Nah, this can’t even be Blah blah.  And then now all of a sudden.  You know.  
01:35:05	Well my mom’s gonna be the only adult here. Well my mom’s gonna be the only adult.  She wants to come?  Hold on.
01:35:38	(Athina opens door calls her mom in)
ATHINA: Ma, come here.  
CRYSTAL: you look cute
ATHINA: Yeah, come here
Crystal goes in room shuts door.  Camera stays outside
CRYSTAL: What?
Camera cuts to water defrosting the shrimp platter for the rest of the conversation.
ATHINA:  What am I suppose to say?
CRYSTAL: What do you want to do?
ATHINA: (sighs) I don’t know mom.
01:36:14	CRYSTAL: I gotta think about that one
ATHINA: Well
Camera cuts back to wide of kitchen, both in kitchen MW on Crystal, Athina not in frame but has caller on hold while she talks to Crystal. 
ATHINA: He wants to come with the rest of his friends you know
CRYSTAL:  What friends?
ATHINA: His best friends are Justin and Nathan and them.
CRYSTAL:  Uh let me think about it.
01:36:41	ATHINA: Ok.  How long you gonna think about it for?
CRYSTAL: Give me a second Athina, come on.
ATHINA: (back into phone) she says she has to think about it.  All right.
01:37:00	Crystal walks to bedroom door knocks.
CRYSTAL:  Let me use the phone.  I want to try your grandma.
ATHINA: What grandma?
CRYSTAL: Uh, give me the phone please.  I need to use the phone.
ATHINA:  All right hold on.  She put me on hold.
01:37:14 	(Camera on Crystal as she explains to filmmaker the situation, but Athina is still on phone and micced.  We hear both conversations)
CRYSTAL: In summary, the baby’s paternal grandmother 
She always made it seems as though my daughter is sort of slutty or whatever.  So she said she’d call me back as far as when she got info on maternity (?).  Now my daughter’s telling me he wants to come to the baby shower.  And not because (inaudible) the baby. 
01:43:29	Athina ends phone conversation, enters frame hands Crystal phone.  Crystal continues talking to filmmaker.
CRYSTAL: …(inaudible) you know, come with his friends, (inaudible) his mother’s planning a surprise baby shower and (laughs) it’s aaahh, little angry (inaudible) her friends are coming but then again who am I to tell him not to come if he’s the father of the baby.  (long pause) That’s my dilemma right now.

Athina enters
ATHINA: Marcy’s mom’s here.  

102

DESCRIPTION:  (Overmodulated audio.  Unintelligible.  Decent video).
Baby shower scenes.  Kids arrive.  Girls seated around table.  Boys enter awkwardly.  Crystal on telephone with mother of baby’s father.  People leave by front door.

105

DESCRIPTION:  Athina with social worker, exterior room tone, exterior shots of house.  Athina looking at pregnancy charts, discuss baby shower to camera, shows baby shower pix, asked how she felt about shower, her expectations, etc.  Athina and Mother sit on couch and talk about what happened at baby shower

00:00:00	Athina sits on couch with Social Worker. 

(Dialogue between the two is not transcribed).

00:06:10	Camera crew outside for “room tone”	
00:06:49	EXT.  Athina exits the house, gets into car, drives away
00:08:26	Exterior shots of Athina’s house, day
00:08:28:00	ATHINA:  (holding birth chart) Look at how big the hand is actually at twelve weeks right here.  They show you a lot of weird stuff in here.  Yeah! (laughs) That’s like really weird.
	INTERVIEWER:  Are those eyes?
	ATHINA:  Yeah they’re eyes! (laughs) It’s like the heart from four to seven weeks. The brain. Look it the brain looks like a little - like a little string. From twenty-eight days to thirty-six days.  The arm is just like a little nub at a time (laughs). Something weird, I don’t know.
	INTERVIEWER:  I like how they show the pregnant woman with the -
	ATHINA: With the (laughs) with the little cigarette right here I don’t know that’s weird.
	INTERVIEWER:  Wait, can we get a shot of this then?
00:09:28:00	CAMERAMAN:  Oh yeah, turn it around. (Close up of chart).  No smoking. No drinking.
	IINTERVIEWER:  I want to keep (unintelligible)
	ATHINA: (laughs) So he was like walking around with this book for two days straight.  It was really weird, I don’t know.
	INTERVIEWER:  Okay, show us the pictures of the baby shower.  Do you have enough tape?
	CAMERAMAN:  Uh, yeah, nine minutes.
	INTERVIEWER:  Okay.
	ATHINA:  Okay, when did you guys leave at?
	INTERVIEWER:  We left during the gifts.  But we wanted you to recap the, the games because it was really dark.
00:10:09:00	ATHINA:  (Takes breath)  Okay, um, during the games, the first game was the baby food testing game.  We had all the boys do it.  But, um, they weren’t having it (shaking her head “no”).  No.  Like, they like threw the food everywhere (laughs).  And they were like, “No it got on my pants!” There was a lot of, um, well here, right there (pointing to photo). It got all over his beige pants, and it was like carrots, and he was having a fit cause he said he felt it on his pants. So, I don’t know.  It was that and then… some other little game where you write down something, and they like had to do it, like crawl like a baby or something like that.  I thought that was a retarded game, but, um, then there was the one about how big I was…um…Actually, the guys - two of the guys were like, “Oh no, I know how big she is, I know how big she is, I’m gonna get this right!”  And they actually got it right.  And it was most of them too.  Um, I took a picture with them (looking down at photos)… This one. (laughs) His eyes are closed in this one.  But, um, no, they got that one right.  I don’t know.  It’s kind of weird.
00:11:42:00	INTERVIEWER:  So what kind of stuff did you get as presents?
00:11:43:00	ATHINA:  A lot of clothes…A lot of clothes.  And, uh, that’s really it.  Mostly it was clothes and then I got this organizing thing for like, the baby’s pampers or whatever. And like soaps and (scratching neck)…
	INTERVIEWER:  What did you think of the party overall?
	ATHINA:  Huh?
	INTERVIEWER:  What did you think of the party overall. 
00:12:05:00	ATHINA:  It was…It was nice.  I think it was nice…(thinks about it) It was okay. Um, it was like really loud (laughs) but it was still fun.  I was glad all- mo- some of my friend- well, most of my friends are here, so yeah.
	INTERVIEWER:  Is that kind of how you expected it to be?
	ATHINA: (thinks about it)  Actually, I really wasn’t, like, expecting anything or I wasn’t really thinking about how was it going to be.  But like the next day everyone was like, “The party was so fun!” at school and everything and I don’t know, it was weird.
	INTERVIEWER:  Um, how do you think the party (unintelligible)?
	ATHINA:  That one I’m not sure about cause like everyone’s gonna be like a lot older that me (laughs). But, I don’t know, I’ll probably…One of them’s gonna be like “ohhhhh” and I (shakes head no)…I don’t really like that, so, I don’t know… Like, my aunt’s like, “they’re gonna be like “let me touch your stomach,” And I’m like…I don’t like that, so…
00:13:13:00	INTERVIEWER: Why don’t you like it when someone touches your stomach?
	ATHINA:  I don’t - It’s annoying.  It really gets annoying.  The first few times its okay, but then like after awhile it really gets annoying. So…
	INTERVIEWER:  So, um, you were talking about how you’re going to get in-schooled? Is that what you were telling your dad?
	ATHINA:  Oh yeah, I’m going to get home-schooled because, um, my school is pretty far away from our house, so, it’s like, sometimes in the morning my uncle takes me, but then sometimes he can’t take us so we have to go walking.  And its like I had to walk double - well not double but like two extra blocks  (unintelligible) drop off my brother at school.  And its just really (shakes head) I just can’t do it.  I can’t walk to school and then walk back from school cause it really makes my back hurt really bad.  And then its like, sitting in the chair all day is really uncomfortable, and, I don’t know, its just really becoming really uncomfortable for me.  So, and my teachers like, you know, you go and get home-schooled.  And, yeah, that’s probably what I’ll do (inaudible) next few weeks.
00:14:28:00	INTERVIEWER:  What were you talking about when you, when you guys were at the party you were saying something about how like the school - you were gonna (unintelligible) school (unintelligible)? What was going on? Do you remember, because I was like, oh, I’m like can you pull me out of school (unintelligible)…
00:14:45:00	ATHINA:  Oh, I don’t know, its just like everyone’s fine with me being at the school accept for like the social worker and the principal. And they want to like get out of the school, and my teacher’s like, “you know, there’s no point of it you know.  There’s nothing they can do about it.” But like they, they just like, they just, they just hassle me about certain things and its…I really don’t think I deserve that.  I’m a good kid.  I never got suspended, you know.  I’m on honor roll, you know.  But, they just - they’re just not treating me right.  And my teacher doesn’t like it, and she’s like, “don’t let it get to you.” So, I’m just not letting it get to me.
	INTERVIEWER:  What kind of things do they like - how do they hassle you? 
	ATHINA:  Well, its just like little things, but like, like, like when, like I pass by them, they give me weird looks or like, they’re always like, like before my mom went up to the school, they were telling me, “Oh you should go to an alternative school and blah blah blah. It’s better for you.”  And like the alternative school is in a really bad neighborhood.  Its like, its overcrowded for, first of all.  And its just like really far away from the house, and I have no way to get there. Are they gonna send someone over to drive me over to the school or something? No.  You know, I don’t want to take the bus over there, because its in a bad neighborhood.  So, um, they would just do stupid things like that. 
00:16:14:00	INTERVIEWER:  So are they the only people who are giving you problems?
	ATHINA:  Well, yeah, everyone, like the kids don’t even care, cause like… No they don’t even care, they - most of the kids - I get along with everybody in the school and so, its like, just them who are the only people giving me problems.  So, I don’t know.
INTERVIEWER:  So, um, when is, like, after you have the baby are you going to be home-schooled still or are you going to go back?
	ATHINA:  Oh no, I get, um… its usually about six weeks, but if my doctor says longer, then I get longer.  But, after that I go back.  I get like about six weeks off and then I go back to school.  
00:17:14	INTERVIEWER:  So how do you think the baby shower went?
	CRYSTAL (seated next to Athina):  I basically just kept to myself.  Sat in the corner and kept to myself.  It was just like a regular teenager party.  Got a little loud, you know.  Especially with boys there.  Got a little loud, but that was okay.  A little longer than I wanted but, you know.
	INTERVIEWER:  What  time did they end up leaving?
	CRYSTAL:  Around eight thirty.  It was supposed to end at five, so you know around eight thirty.  So…  
	INTERVIEWER:  What  ended up happening with the, like did the mom call back, errrrr…
	CRYSTAL:  Well basically we were arguing because she felt like her son should come to this baby shower and I told her that I wasn’t the one who did the baby shower that it was her friends that were doing the baby shower, they’re the ones who didn’t invite him to the baby shower.  It wasn’t me.  And, I told her that it wasn’t me, but she was real angry about that and you know… we were discussing that on the phone.  Um… and she never called me back for like a week and a half and then suddenly she called back last week and she basically she spoke to Athina but Athina didn’t know who she was because I have a friend by her name and, um, she told me, ‘oh, you know so-and-so called’ and I was like ‘oh, I’ll call her back sometime later,’ and I haven’t called her but it was the mother who has called, not my friend.  So actually what happened was that while all that was going on yesterday, what winded up happening yesterday was while I was 
00:19:00	lying her on the sofa watching TV, Athina and Ethan had gone with their dad, and I had the shades closed and I hear a knocking at the window and I go see who it is and its, um, the mom and the boy at the door, wanting to talk to me.  And I told them why didn’t they call me?  And then they’re like ‘well we tried your cellphone, but no one answered’ and I go ‘I didn’t answer the phone cause I didn’t know the number and I’m gonna answer the phone if I don’t know the number I wasn’t going to answer the phone,’ and this happened like two minutes before they started tapping at my window, so I was like ‘well I can’t talk right now, there’s no one here.’ And she just kept insisting that she wanted to talk about this whole situation, and I told them ‘well you know what, I have to talk to their father and see what day we can talk.’ But she left with him, he had a little bit of an attitude because I guess he wants, somehow, I don’t know what he
00:20:00	wants, to be honest with you.  Um… (shakes head) I don’t know if he wants visitations, if he, does he want, I don’t know.  If he wants visitations that’s fine with me, but I spoke to Athina’s dad and we’ve decided that if he wants visitations and he wants rights then he needs to pay child support because most of the financial burden falls on us, you know.  We’re gonna be paying for Pampers, you know we’re gonna be paying for all of this other stuff, and what are they gonna be doing, just coming to visit the baby?  So that’s something that we’re basically gonna have to settle with lawyers.  
	(young child approaches, whispers in her face, inaudibly)
	Okay I’m talking right now, okay?  I’ll be over there in five minutes.  (re-addressing camera) So, it’s a big headache, it really is.
	INTERVIEW:  So are you guys gonna have a big meeting with them, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…
00:21:00	CRYSTAL:  Well, what basically wound up happening was that Athina’s dad called me and told me that, uh, his father called--
	(fire alarm sounds: BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!)
ATHINA:  (hand to head in exasperation) He’s making food, I was wondering what was--
	(chatter continues while fire alarm continues BEEEEEEEEEEEEE!)
00:21:37	Crystal: --Yeah, so basically, uh, she wants to meet, and the father called their dad and he was supposed to talk the them, I guess man-to-man or whatever.  Um, they’re supposed to talk, so I’m wondering what’s gonna happen with that.  Cause (Athine puts head down, Crystal shakes her head) Athina’s dad, he doesn’t even wanna look 
00:22:00 	at the kid.  So I don’t know what’s gonna happen.  He said, he’s gonna tell ‘em, you know what, let’s just settle this with lawyers, but he doesn’t really want anything to do with the baby.  He’s tried to contact her via instant messaging… but um, I’m not sure what’s he’s told her in regards to that.   I don’t, I don’t, one of the things that I don’t like is that he, I found out he’s a tagger and I’m not sure if he’s been arrested, or… (turns attention off camera, excuses self).
00:22:50	…So they’re supposed to have a man-to-man talk, we’ll see.  I’m gonna call him later tonight and we’ll talk about it (inaudible) or that they decided to do.
	ATHINA:  It’s today?
	CRYSTAL:  Uh-huh.  I’m trying to look at it from their point of view, too.  The mother approached me in a way that I did not like at all. It made it seem as if, if you’re gonna call someone or something like this, you’re not gonna tell, like she told me, ‘oh well we gotta figure out who the father really is, so we’re gonna have to do a paternity test because we don’t know how many guys she’s been with.  ‘Oh, nice to meet you, too! (laughs).  I was like ‘you don’t know my daughter.  I know my daughter, and I know who she’s been with, and she’s telling me she’s been with this boy, and he is the father of her child. 
	DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER:  There’s some lava over there, and we’re getting ready to go make some hot lava of our own.  It’s time to catch the bad guys, Hawaiian style!
00:24:00	And, from what I’ve been told, now he’s… now he’s wants, you know, to be dad to the baby, so, we’ll see what happens.
	INTERVIEW:  So Athina, what do you think about all this, like—
	ATHINA:  Well, just, if, see… it’s like, I don’t want… he’s not the greatest guy in the world, and so I don’t want my baby growing up to think that that’s how guys are, cause not all guys are like him, and he’s...  If he gets caught doing something like tagging again then its two months in juvi for him.  Two months is too long to be away from a baby.  I don’t know, I really don’t want him in the baby’s life, but he has rights and I don’t know (trails off).
00:25:00	INTERVIEWER:  So he just goes tagging and stuff and he got arrested for it?
	ATHINA:  Yeah, he’s gotten arrested for it before.  
	CRYSTAL:  In a way, not to seem mean about it, but in a way, its good for us.  Because if it really comes down to it legally, you know we could say what, what type of person is this kid, if he’s already been arrested on several occasions… I pray to God, I, I don’t want it to go that far, where, I just don’t want to have to deal with that.  But if it does come down to it, where they’re like ‘oh no the baby’s gonna be with us’ then we’re gonna have to take it like that.  But we’ll see what happens.  
00:26:00	INTERVIEWER:  So what are your expectations for Sunday?
	CRYSTAL:  It’s supposed to be, you know, your daughter’s first baby shower is supposed to be a really happy occasion, you know, your first grandchild and everything.  I’m thirty-four (laughs).  I’m not, I’m not… I don’t I’m.  The only reason we’re doing this is because I can’t afford to buy all new things for the baby so we’re basically just doing this to get some of the things we need for the baby.  We’ll have a little bit of a party, a party atmosphere, but I mean, there’s not going to be a big hoopla or anything like that.  We’re gonna have food, maybe play one or two games, but its not gonna be a big time party or anything like that.  I would have liked to celebrate it if she was older.  
	INTERVIEWER:  You guys have any other thoughts?  Like, are you getting nervous, errrrrr…
	CRYSTAL:  Well, we have an issue in regards to baby-sitting.  
00:27:00	That’s one of the biggest issues that we have right now.  We’re trying to figure out what’s gonna happen when she goes back to school.  The summer, she’s got it covered because she’s gonna be taking care of the baby but what’s gonna happen when she starts high school?  If she gets accepted into one of the selective high schools, their curriculum is really hard.  Is she gonna be able to handle that, is she gonna be able to handle a crying baby, waking up in the middle of night, studying for tests, you know, it’s… I will be there for her, but, you know it’s gotten to the point where I’m like, ‘oh my God, should I just quit my job and just like do the baby-sitting myself so that she can finish,’ but that’s not even realistic because I need to work.  I’m the only income coming into this household.  And it’s not easy just to leave somebody, you know, to leave your baby with somebody you don’t know.  You don’t know
00:28:00	what if the baby’s been laying there for hours, has the baby been fed, has the baby been hit?  You know, that’s, that’s a real big issue. So we’re trying to find somebody you know, that’s responsible enough to take care of the baby, at least during the day.  Another option I have is to change my hours.  But then I would have to leave all three of them, my son, Athina and the baby alone from three to eleven or twelve o’clock midnight.  Or three o’clock in the morning till, you know, whatever.  And I don’t wanna have to leave them like that.  But that is a big issue for me, the babysitting.  (inaudible) –enough of that, trustworthy people.  But I mean, if we’re able to do this, able to get a babysitter or someone to watch the baby.  There’s not 
00:29:00	enough programs, I think.  A lot of the programs that they have, are mostly based in really bad neighborhoods.  And I guess because of the lower income, but there’s nothing I’ve seen like based in a better meighborhood where it’s liking a sliding scale fee or anything like that, you know.  So we’ll see (smiles halfheartedly.

109

09:01:30           INTERVIEWER: You can start over again.
                        ATHINA: All right
	ATHINA: My name is Athina I’m 14 and I go to school.
	INTERVIEWER: Um… how would a friend describe you ? 
                        ATHINA: … Now ?
  		INTERVIEWER: Ya
ATHINA: Um I guess my friends would describe me as being…. quiet, the weird and au…. and lately I have been like very bitter, (laughs) don’t like to talk to anybody, like, but, I guess that is how they would describe me.
INTERVIEWER:  And how would they describe you before ?
ATHINA:   …. The kid that would never get in trouble. (Laughs). Ya I know it is kind of weird, but I was one of the quiet one, I never did anything  wrong. Up I don’t know.
09:02:37	INTERVIEWER: Um how would your parents describe you ?
ATHINA: …. I really don’t know how my parents would describe me... I don’t know.
INTERVIEWER: If there was one thing in this world you can change what would it be ?
ATHINA: …. UM I don’t think I would change anything, everything is the way it is for a reason. So, I don’t thing I would change anything about the world.
INTERVIEWER: Um what would you change about your family if you could ?
ATHINA: … I wouldn’t want my family to be so noisy.  They are really noisy. But at times it’s like hilarious and I love it about them, but a little bit less is one thing, I would want to change about my family. 
09:03:45          INTERVIEWER: Um what is the one thing you would change about                               
                        yourself ?
 		ATHINA: …. I don’t know (laughs), I mean I wish I was a better reader. 
		INTERVIEWER: UM Where do you see yourself in five years ?
ATHINA: …. In College ? I thing I would see myself in 5 years in College,  ya.
INTERVIEWER: What do you thing you would be studying ?
ATHINA: Alaa
INTERVIEWER: Can you repeat that ?
ATHINA: (Loud Laugh) In five years I think I will be in College studying Law.
09:04:39         INTERVIEWER: And why are you attracted to law ?
	           ATHINA: I have always been attracted to law, I have always wanted to be  	           A lawyer.
	           INTERVIEWER: Are you a good arguer.
                       ATHINA: Ya I’m very good at debate. 
                       INTERVIEWER: Um where do you see yourself in ten years ?
 	           ATHINA: … In college. (load laugh) Ya I think in ten years I see myself in 	           College. So, I don’t know.
	           INTERVIEWER: What would a perfect day be like for you ?
ATHINA: …(Mess up in speech) A perfect day for me would be, waking  up… on my own, not having my mother or brother waking me up and go eat breakfast in McDonalds… come back, watch some TV, fall asleep, (laughs)  wake up watch TV until like two o’clock at night and fall asleep again and that is the perfect day for me.
09:05:49         INTERVIEWER: UM describe your family
	           ATHIMA: Which family ? Like my whole family ?
INTERVIEWER: Describe your immediate family, family you associate            the most, who you see a lot, people you see often and associate a lot.
ATHIMA: Well my parents are split up and I have a little brother, he is funny (laughs), he does funny things, he thinks he is spider man and my mom’s mom and dad, they live by midway and their the most intelligent and the great people I know to, my aunt lives with them and she… she is very nice and smart and my dad’s side of my family, my it’s my grandfather and grandmother are not together anymore, they are divorced but they have four kids, my dad, uncle Rudy, my uncle David and my aunt Rosario and my uncles are really over protective of me, really over protective ! and my ( after the word my, Athima saids something that I could not understand at all maby it was in Spanish ? ) and my dad is very quiet, I don’t know… my mom… she’s…she’s I would have to say is my best friend, she is my best friend, she is the greatest person I ever known, so that’s it.
09:07:56         INTERVIEWER: Um what are five things you can’t live without ? 
                       ATHIMA: ….  (The phone rings)
INTERVIEWER: The Phone ?
ATHIMA: (Both the Interview an Athima laugh)
INTERVIEWER: Ok pause
ATHIMA: (Athima answers and talks on the phone) Saids she wanted for me to get dinner already.
INTERVIEWER: What are five things you can not live without ?
ATHIMA: Five things I can not live without Satellite (laughs), any type of cable, my computer with the internet, my family, my little brother… and clothes (Laughs) so.
09:09:10	INTERVIEWER: Um what is your greatest achievement so far ?
ATHIMA: My greatest achievement so far, is being an honor – roll  student… it’s one of the best things I pride my self upon, was being an honor –roll student. 
INTERVIEWER: Have you always been an honor – roll student ?
ATHIMA: No actually this is the first year being an honor – roll student.
INTERVIEWER:  Um what is your biggest challenge ?
ATHIMA: …Right now ?…. I don’t know….. I don’t know.
INTERVIEWER: Um then I’m not going to ask you how you plan on facing it. (both the INTERVIEWER and Athima laugh)
09:09:57         INTERVIEWER: What do you to get away from all your problems ?
ATHIMA: ….To get away from all my problems, I usually just sit in a quite  room by myself, just think things over, that is what I do.
INTERVIEWER: Who do you look up to ?
ATHIMA: … I look up to my mom.
INTERVIEWER: Why ?
ATHIMA: Becauseee, all the stuff she has been throw, she still manages to be a happy person, to just be nice and all the stuff she has been thought and everything she turned bidder, it has it, I don’t know she is my hero ( I could not understand what Athima is saying she is mumbling so I could not write completely what she saids in this sentence. 
09:10:51        INTERVIEWER: Um what is the skill you want to learn ?
ATHIMA: I want to learn German and Japanese. (laughs) That’s the skill I  want to learn.
INTERVIEWER: What do you want to learn German and Japanese ?
ATHIMA: …. I want to learn German and Japanese is because, they are just so interesting, I don’t know the whole culture not just that, just the way they talk is like just so cool ,I don’t know.
09:11:28:06	INTERVIEWER: Um, what’s the best advice someone has given you? 
ATHINA: The best advice someone has given me…would be…that you have no real friends.  You can only rely on yourself.  That’s the best advice someone’s ever given me. 
INTERVIEWER: Um, what’s the nicest thing that you’ve done for someone? 
ATHINA: The nicest thing that I’ve done for someone I would have to say is letting one of my friends live with me...when she got kicked out of her house. 
09:12:10:24	INTERVIEWER: How long was she here for? 
	ATHINA: Two or three days. 
	INTERVIEWER: Then did she go back to her parents’ house? 
	ATHINA: Yeah. 
 	INTERVIEWER: Um, well that’s kind of, I mean…what do you…have you had stuff, cause you said the best advice that you’ve gotten is um you don’t have any friends, to trust yourself.  Is there something that has happened that has made you just realize that?  Or did you realize that from the moment that they said it? 
ATHINA: J—Just all the stuff that I’ve been going through lately…A lot of  it…I’ve noticed that my friends have been backstabbing me.  People who I thought would never do that to me.  That’s when I started to realize that it is true.  Cause I don’t have one friend that’s ever been completely faithful to me..so…. 
	INTERVIEWER: Can you talk about some of the stuff you’ve been going through? 
09:13:12:00	ATHINA: Like what? 
	INTERVIEWER: Well, like the stuff that you’re talking about.  That you’re 	telling me about all the stuff that you’ve been going through lately.  And they’re backstabbing you.  What’s the stuff that you’ve been going through? 
	ATHINA: Well it’s…There’s not a lot of big things, but they’re all just little things that are just like…that just shock you about your friends.  Like…like…a lot of my friends, things that I would tell them in privacy, they would go and tell other people about.  It’s not, that’s not right, or…Or,…just a whole bunch of things like that.  Just people not being nice.  People acting like children. 
09:14:06:28	Not mature. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, if you could play a musical instrument, which one would it be? (INTERVIEWER laughs) 
	ATHINA: If I could play a musical instrument…it would be…If I could play a 	musical instrument it would be the base. 
	INTERVIEWER: Why? 
	ATHINA: I don’t know, I just like it. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, what are you grateful for? 
	ATHINA: I’m grateful for my family.  They’re the best thing I have. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, how do you calm yourself when you get angry? 
	ATHINA: When I get angry, I calm myself by crying.  When I get very frustrated, I start to cry, so… 
 09:15:02:18	I don’t know, just it’s.   I think it’s my emotions going on… 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, how do you calm yourself--- Um, who’s a…who’s
	the most important person in your life? 
	ATHINA: The most important person in my life right now I would have to say is my brother.  I just love him so much.  I don’t know what I would do without him. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, who depends on you the most? 
	ATHINA: My brother (laughs).  My brother depends on me the most. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, is the glass half-empty or is it half full? (laughs) Like, basically, how do you see life, or…it’s kind of a strange question.  Answer it however you will.(laughs)  Like do you see life as being glass full, half full or whatever or half empty? 
 09:16:07:21	ATHINA: I guess I ‘ll answer it the best I can, um (laughs).  I see life as being something that’s not like a destiny.  You choose your own destiny.  That’s…You have to work at what you want. 
	INTERVIEWER: Uh, what’s…(laughs) This is funny.  What’s the foreign lauguage you would speak you…why…we’ll skip that one.  How do you want to be remembered? 
	ATHINA: I want to be remembered as somebody who made a difference…either with the,  either with the baby or the whole world.  Like make a new law or something, butI just want to be remembered as someone who made a difference. 
 09:16:59:23	INTERVIEWER: Uh, why did you want to do this project? 
	ATHINA: Because my cousin forced me to (they laugh).  No, uh I want to do this 	project so that other people could know that they’re not the only person.  That they’re not alone. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, uh how do you think, how do you think the  baby’s gonna change your life? 
	ATHINA: The baby is gonna change my life because…Uh, let me rephrase that. (laughs)  Um, I think the baby’s gonna change my life…in the way that …I’m gonna have a lot more responsibilities.  I’ve done as much grown up…growing up as I can right now. 
 09:18:01:14	To be as ready as I can.  I’m – right now I’m as ready as I can to have a baby.  But after the baby’s born, my childhood is over.  I’m not gonna be able to do anything.  I’m not going to be able to go to parties, anything like that.  And I know that, but in a way it still kind of hurts me.  But it it’s not the baby’s fault, it’s mine. 
	INTERVIEWER: Um, how is being pregnant similar to what you thought it would be? 
ATHINA: I never really thought about how it would feel to be pregnant but now I realize that it’s really hard.  There’s a lot of things that you can’t do.  Just makes you feel sick all the time. 
09:21:30	Athina:  But my little brother has other worries, beside the baby
	Int.:	Like what?
	Athina:  Our new little sister. He loves her but (sigh) there’s just something… He hasn’t really accepted the whole fact of her not being my mom, kind of.
09:21:56	INTERVIEWER:  What does he understand about the whole situation?
	Athina:  (Sigh) My brother really doesn’t understand the whole situation with my parents being divorced. In his eyes it was always my mom and my dad and that’s it. Mommy Daddy. But now it’s not that anymore.
	INTERVIEWER:  How’s your dad reacting to everything?
09:22:25	Athina:  (starts to cry) My dad… I don’t I don’t know (sigh) my dad’s   weird. He really tries not to show me all his emotions. He’s always been like that.
		INTERVIEWER:  What kind of a role is he playing, right now, in his life?
	Athina:  Well he’s playing the role of my dad, I mean…He’s a great dad, but he’s done some really stupid things.
09:23:00	INTERVIEWER:  And how do you feel about your dad’s baby? You said that Ethan hasn’t accepted it, but how do you feel?
	Athina:  I love her. She’s my little sister. I do love her…but at times I wish that she wasn’t really here. Because (breathes out) I sometimes think my mom would have taken him back (sniff). I don’t know.
09:23:33	INTERVIEWER:  How do you, uh (Athina continued sniffling) how do you. Do you and, uh, I forgot her name (muffled), what Chris…
		Athina:  Chrissie…
	INTERVIEWER:  …Chrissie get along?
09:23:45	Athina:  (sniff) Ya… Ya we get along. Me and Chrissie get along… She’s really nice… But always… in the back of my head, I’m always thinking about (sniff) she was the other woman. I mean she wasn’t the total reason why my dad left (sniff), he wanted to leave because he was unhappy, but (sigh) how could she have not known that she, that he was married?
09:24:29	INTERVIEWER:  Has your dad talked to you guys about it, or...?
	Athina:  (sniffs) He’s… sort of talked to us about it… but…he really doesn’t like to cause it hurts him at the same time… That’s kind of a subject we really don’t want to talk about.
09:25:01	INTERVIEWER:  Do you guys still see him a lot?
	Athina:  Ya, we still see him a lot.
INTERVIEWER:  And does he live, how far does he live from here?
	Athina:  He lives about a mile away. Not too far
	Int:  Um, so, school…
	Int. #2 (male):  Uh, I was going to ask her a different question, actually.
	INTERVIEWER:  Go ahead.
09:25:27	INTERVIEWER #2:  Um, how has being pregnant affected the way your body feels? For you. How do you like, how have you adjusted for that, physically, like you know, with the carrying the load and all the you know, getting sick and obviously with the asthma symptoms and stuff?
09:25:50	Athina: Uh, um, my body… A lot of back pain. A lot of back pain from being pregnant and…(sigh) I don’t know, you’re just more prone to be getting sick. Lot. You get, I would say most people usually get at least one good cold, while being pregnant, and it usually lasts longer than a regular cold (sniff) so.
09:26:23	INTERVIEWER:  Um… Well back to the whole school thing, Can you talk about before you had, um, mentioned how you had problems with the principal and the social worker? Can you describe (Athina sniffs loudly) talk about that situation? (Athina has been crying and has a cold. Her nose is running to the point that she can’t answer questions)	
	INTERVIEWER:  Do you want another Kleenex?
	Int. #2: Yeah. Here’s some.
		Athina:  Yeah. (Camera stops recording as Athina blows her nose 
Loudly. It begins recording again as she is asking the INTERVIEWER what her last question was.)
09:26:57	Athina:  …was the next question?
	INTERVIEWER:  Uh, the situation at school.
	Athina:  Um. The situation that I had at school was that…
Basically my principal and my social worker wanted me out of school. No one else really cared about it, but they were the ones that were basically like, you know, you should really go to an alternative school, but the alternative school was in a bad neighborhood and I had no way of getting there but they were still pushing for me to go to an alternative school. Or at least get home schooled earlier. So, I really didn’t like the way they were treating me so my mom had gone up to the school… made a little bit of an argument and they stopped bothering me. No one… NO one really cared about me being in school except for them. So.
09:27:57	INTERVIEWER:  Um. Did they still… They didn’t bother you anymore, but did they react to you in any other way. Like… Did they, cause you were telling me they were giving you dirty looks?	  
	Athina:  Yeah, they… used to give me dirty looks, but not anymore. Actually the principal like kinda started tried to like kiss up to me, um, on the day of the… the assembly, the, uh, awards assembly. When they give out the awards for…the honors and book reports and whatever. When my class was leaving, she was like oh really good job, blah blah, and I’m like yeah.  I’m like yeah.
09:28:45	INTERVIEWER:  Uh, so what’s going on with school right now? (Pause with no response) You know with the home schooling thing?
Athina:  Oh, Right now I’m getting home schooled because I
can’t go to school it… its just… it hurts too much. My back hurts too much. I can’t sit down in a, in a chair for too long. I start squirming around. Just things like that I just can’t. Um, but I’m being home schooled. My homeroom teacher is actually coming to my house for an hour after school every day. Teaching me the stuff that I have to keep up on.
	INTERVIEWER:  Do think being home schooled is going to affect your education versus going to school regularly?
09:29:30	Athina:  No, I don’t think its going to affect my regular education because… because I catch up on things pretty quickly and if she gives me a couple pages to read I’ll be able to answer questions on, about them, the next day, so I think even though I had to do a lot of work on my own, I’ll be able to do it.
09:29:59	INTERVIEWER:  Um, your mom was talking about you possibly going to a (inaudible) school or a more academically challenging school, have you made any plans in regards to that?
	Athina:  Actually, yeah, um, we had to take this test to get into the school, but… the school… it didn’t accept me. I eh, my… th the score. They didn’t like it so, or whatever. I don’t know.
09:30:29	INTERVIEWER:  So what school are you going to end up going to?
INTERVIEWER #2:  [three minutes left on the tape, by the way, just so you know.]
	INTERVIEWER:  [ok]
	Athina	I think I’ma go, I’m goin to go, go to Kennedy. Kennedy High School. I think so.
	INTERVIEWER:  Okay. Um, is there anything you want to say..? Before… we finish the tape [laughs].
	Athina:  No. [nervously laughs]
	INTERVIEWER:  Okay. I think we’re good.
09:30:54	Int. #2:  Yeah.

110

10:02:44:00	CRYSTAL:  Um, I’m Crystal (Last Name, cannot spell), 34 years old, and um I’m a medical receptionist.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ok and uh, what is your relationship to Athena?
	CRYSTAL: I’m her mom.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ok, can you talk about uh…can you describe Athena like when she was born, and like the situation that was going on when she was born.
	CRYSTAL:  Um, she was born when I was 20 years old, I was young.  Um, she was born here in Chicago and I was uh a single mom, I was dating her Dad.  And uh we were going out off and for a few years.  And I had known him for a few months before I got pregnant.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ok what was she like when uh she was a baby.
	CRYSTAL:  She was really uh a quite baby.  She wasn’t too hyper, uh she slept most of the night which was great for me.  Um, because most babies
10:03:44:00	tend to wake you up every two hours, but she, she slept most of the night from the beginning.  And uh, she was more hyper during the day then you know the later hours.
	INTERVIEWER: And um, who did you live with when she was born?
	CRYSTAL:  When she was born I lived with my parents for a few months, and then I moved out on my own.  Um, her Dad uh opted to come and live with me at that point.  But he was young too, so, he was younger then I was
	INTERVIEWER:  How old was he?
	CRYSTAL:  He was 16.  No I’m sorry he was…he was going on 17, and I was 20.  So he was a few years younger then me.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ok.  Um, can you describe uh the rest of your family besides then Athena.
	CRYSTAL:  Well uh my immediate family I have my two parents who are still married.  I have a younger sister.  She’s uh, around 27 years old.  Um
10:04:44:00	and I have a small family basically.  And I have uh three aunts who are my Mother’s sisters.  And uh two male cousins, (baby noise in the back ground) one of them which is married.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ok, um, can you talk about your son?
	Oh, (laughs)…you probably heard him in the back ground.  Um he’s four years old and uh he’s pretty hyper. (laughs).  He’s a boy, so he’s jumping off and off the walls and everything.  And uh, but uh sometimes he’s a little much to handle, but you know, I can deal with it.  (laughs)
	INTERVIEWER:  Um, describe Athena when she was a little girl…younger.
	CRYSTAL:  She liked to perform a lot, she liked a lot of attention.  Um, she used to do dances and uh just do her own little performances in front of the family in front grandma and grandpa.  And um, we used to applaud for her 
10:05:44:00	and everything.  She used to dress up and things like that.  So she used to like attention a lot, when she was younger
	INTERVIEWER:  I have this uh picture of her actually when she was like I want to say she was like 4 or 5 or something.  And she’s like this (INTERVIEWER puts her arms in front of the camera).  (The two laugh)  And her arms up and her mouth is like wide open.  And like everytime I think of her…
	CRYSTAL:  (Interupting) She, she loves attention…So
	INTERVIEWER:  Ya, I just got that picture in my head.  Um, describe Athena now?
	CRYSTAL:   Well at this point right now, um she’s very clingy to me, at this point.  Uh before hand um… she was more um,.. she, she likes a lot of effection.  She’s the type of person who likes a lot of affection.  And her Dad used to give her a lot of affection.  I on the other hand am not that much of an affection person, though I try to be but her Dad was more of affectionate person towards her then you know, and that’s what she likes.
	INTERVIEWER:  So what was the change uh in clinginess?
10:06:44:00	CRYSTAL:  I think because she’s pregnant.  Now every little second, Mom I love you, Mom I love you.  Within five minutes she’ll tell me five different times Mom I love you.  I’ll be like ok…I know.  (lauhgs) You know?   I missed you, how was work.  Before she didn’t, she didn’t do that at all.
	INTERVIEWER:  Ya
	CRYSTAL:  So
	INTERVIEWER:  So do you feel like your relationship has improved since she’s gotten pregnant?
	CRYSTAL:  It’s not that it’s improved but…I think maybe she’s scared, and and shes um, since she’s been pregnant and since I’ve separated from her father.  She has uh found out a lot of things, uh she doesn’t blame me as much as she did before uh when we first got separated.  So she knows a lot more things now and I think she understands, I think to now she’s going to a Mom.  You know so, think she’s a little scared and looking to me for
10:07:44:00	advice, and uh uh that type of stuff.
	INTERVIEWER:  Um what was your relationship then when you guys’ first sepereated?  You said that like before maybe did you say she…like.
	CRYSTAL:  A lot more attached to her father.  Um…uh, we would fight and argue, and I always thought it was more like because she, she was 13 she was at that age where you know your going to fight.  Especially mothers and daughters tend to argue a lot most of the time, and um we had very similar personalities…And I think that’s what caused a lot of friction between us.
	INTERVIEWER:  Uh huh, Um how did you find out that she was pregnant?
	CRYSTAL:  I found out because I received a phone call at work and uh a counselor told me that uh they needed to speak to me immediately because there was something that uh Athena needed to tell me.  And um…in the back
10:08:44:00	of my head I knew what they were going to tell me.  But I didn’t want to believe it.  I was thinking well maybe some boy came looking for her at school or something.  I was making every excuse I could think of, but in the back of my head I just had this feeling that it was going to be that.  That she was pregnant.
	INTERVIEWER:  And how did the counselor find out? 
	CRYSTAL:  Uh Athena went to her and told her.  That she needed to tell me and she didn’t know how to tell me, so they called an emergency meeting wioth me.
	INTERVIEWER:  And how long ago did you find out? 
	CRSYTAL:  Uh The week of Thanksgiving in November
	INTERVIEWER:  And how did uh how did you react to it?
	CRYSTAL:  Um…when they told me…I guess I was in shock because…I
10:09:44:00	told her how can you get pregnant…I…my daughter was 13 when she got pregnant.  And at 13 I wasn’t thinking she was doing anything.  Maybe because I was, at my age at 13 I wasn’t doing anything.  You know?  And when she told me I just couldn’t believe it.  On the whole way,  on our way home, because we walked home, I remember, all I could remember was that it was snowing.  It was drizzling outside.  And the snow was wet.  I remember just walking and walking and she, she just kept really quite, and throughout the whole walk all I did was cry on my way back home.  Because I couldn’t even talk to her, I couldn’t even look at her.  I was really disappointed in her.
	INTERVIEWER:  And how did things gradually change from that?
	CRYSTAL:  Well…at…the first thing I did was…and I and I you know am
10:10:44:00	a little bit embarrassed to say was that, the first I thought of was ok, is she too far a long for an abortion?  Because um, she’s, in my mind she’s to young to have a child.  You know?  So we went here and there and every where through my insurance and the first thing I started doing was calling the insurance companies and all this other stuff to see if it was covered or whatever.  And uh, when we finally went to several clinics they all told us that she was too far along.  So nothing could be done.  So we had to keep the child.  And then another decision was that we needed to uh figure out were we going to keep the baby.  Because um you know being a single mom, I’m already raising both, both my kids and how I’m going to do it with another one.  You know?  I wasn’t expect, I wasn’t expecting to get
10:11:44:00	pregnant so you, you know I was like ok, I’m doing ok with two.  And now there’s another, an other baby.
	INTERVIEWER:  How many months was she when you found out.
	CRYSTAL:  She was close to uh six months.  Ya…close to six months, so um they told us no.  It was too late.  I mean they said I could take her to Kansas or something to this place,  where they do it up to 7 months or something, but I was like um no it’s too late.  No.
	INTERVIEWER:  So um, you guys like why did you decide to keep the baby versus giving it up for adoption
	CRYSTAL:  Hmm.  At first we were talking about giving it up for adoption, and then I spoke to her and I uh…I spoke to her and told her she needs to make the decision because I was I could not make that decision for her
10:12:44:00	because I could tell her ok give up the baby, and then in the future what’s
10:12:52:37	going to happen is that being as young as she is (phone rings) she’s probably going to try and um get pregnant again.
	INTERVIEWER:  Is it alright if I answer the phone? (Unaudible talking going on)
10:13:03:13	CRYSTAL:  Did you get it? (Stands up and talks to someone off camera)
	OFF CAMERA PERSON:  I got it.
	CRYSTAL:  Sorry
	INTERVIEWER:  It’s ok.
	CRYSTAL:  Um…(Inaudible)  Um, eventually what was I, what was I saying?
	INTERVIEWER:  Um being as young she was.
	CRYSTAL:  Ya, being as uh young as she was um I thought well she might try and get pregnant again to make up for giving up the baby.  Or she would blame me for the rest of my life that I made her give it up.  All this other stuff, so I said well you make the decision and you let me know.  And uh she thought about it and she thought about it.  And, and I did, I did know a family, well I do know a family who would had been a nice family incase we had decided to do that,  or she decided to do that.  And um she decided not to.  That it wasn’t what she wanted to do.
	INTERVIEWER:  (Inaudible)
	CRYSTAL:  Ok.  Ethan, go over there.  (Mumbles) You need to close to door.  (Mumbles) You need to go over there and close the door.  Now!
10:14:20:12	CRYSTAL:  (Into conversation that has already started)  They cover I think two in a life time.  Two or three in a life time.  Something like that.
	INTERVIEWER:  Right
	CRYSTAL:  So
	INTERVIEWER:  Um, how do you think all your lives are going to change?
 10:14:44:00	CRSYTAL:  Well…(laughs)…
10:14:14:00	CRYSTAL: (sitting) Well, for myself, for, I think it is going to bring a lot of more hmm I want have a lot of time for myself like I did before um I was already used to going
10:15:00:00	out once a month with the people at work. You know or going to the movies when I felt like it or you know going shopping at the spare of the moment take the kids, whatever, we’ll go shopping. I guess it’s going to be another person coming with us when we do things as a family. But, um, my alone time is in things like that are going to change, for me. For my daughter, it’s going to be a lot more responsibility for her. It’s going to be a lot rougher…. um, she’s entering into high school and it’s, it’s tough enough being a freshman in high school. You know dealing with um, school work and being a new kid at school and making new friends and joining clubs and all this other stuff. And she has to contend with a baby with in itself, you know is hard. My son well, he’s the baby right now, you know
10:16:00:00	so, it might be ah, a little, ah, he loves babies but he might um, be a little jealous in the beginning but he loves babies, you know. I am going to try to involve him as much as possible and I told my daughter to do the same involve him as much as possible with the baby.    In helping us bathe the baby, change the baby and do this other stuff, so I think he’ll be okay with that.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) Um, before you were talking about a problem you were having with the dad’s mom and has anything happened with that at this point on?
	CRYSTAL: (sitting) Well (clears throat) Athena’s dad spoke to the boy’s father um, because ah, they thought that we couldn’t get along, so they, they thought they could talk themselves in and he was saying that um, that um, Man seem to be ah, interested or being involved in the baby’s life and things like that.
10:17:00:00	That he kept referring to the baby as his granddaughter and um, that his son had volunteered without being asked to get a job ah, to try to help with the baby. Um…. since then we haven’t heard no phone call or anything like that because um, Athena’s dad made it clear to him that, that if they wanted to be part of the baby’s life they would need to somehow pay child support, either  the son would have to or they would have to and we haven’t heard from them. But, um, my daughter has heard rumors from her friends because they hang around the same kids of things he had said and you know what he is going to do and all this stuff that, that is talking from a fifteen year old boys mind. You can tell
10:18:00:00	the things he had said, so
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) what kind of things has he said?
	CRYSTAL: Ah, he well, he has supposedly said that um, that he is going to take the baby and runaway to Florida with the baby. And that his
	parents are okay with that, that he is going kidnap the baby and that um, he when the baby is being born he is going to somehow hand over some paperwork is going to appear in the paperwork at the hospital and I’m accidentally going to sign over the baby. I mean that doesn’t even make sense and that’s what I’m saying it’s from the mind of a fifteen year old. You know and that I’m, he’s spreading rumors saying that I’m abusive towards my son and that I am mean to him and all this other stuff.  He has even seen me interact with my son 
10:19:00:00	ever. He hasn’t even stepped inside my house, so I mean these are things he is making up, you know, just I guess he is frustrating maybe he does want to play a part of it, but for now I think it is best that we do it through lawyers. You know, I think it is in the best interest of the baby.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) So, you guys are going to get a lawyer?
	CRYSTAL: Well I thought about and I am not going to do anything about it for now and if they are interested in being part of the baby’s life then they could get the lawyer and the paternity test and then we could settle on child support and visitation rights. 
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) What other um, kinds of problems have you had since you got pregnant?
	CRYSTAL: Um, well the school um, they just, it’s not that they were harassing her, but I don’t think they made my daughter too comfortable being pregnant at the school, you know. They were trying to
10:20:00:00	put her into an alternative school, which was in a bad neighborhood and um, farther away from her school here, her neighborhood school and um, maybe two weeks after….um. Around yeah, two weeks after um, the last meeting I had with the principle I told her to see was not going to leave the school. She was going to stay and that is what she wanted to do and she was a honor roll student, so she has no problems with anyone at school, so there shouldn’t be a problem. Well, after that two weeks later, I decided to take her out on homebound, which is basically where they teach.  The teacher comes here to the house and teaches ah, the student the curriculum for the day. And she is a really good teacher, so she comes on a daily basis for her.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) So, how is that working out for her?
	CRYSTAL: So far so good. She started out Friday, so it only been
10:21:00:00	like three days, you know, so but, so far so good. Yeah.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) Okay um. So what kind of emotions have you been going through, like cause I mean you as a person? I mean not as Athena’s mom but you as a person? 
	CRYSTAL: Um, more like a little scared for her because I know it was hard for me at ah, nineteen, twenty years old with a baby, being pregnant with a baby. I can’t imagine how it can be for a fourteen-year-old to try to raise a baby. And you know I told her several times you’re lucky that, that you have a supportive family because there are plenty of kids out there whose parents find out that you are pregnant you are out the door.
10:22:00:00	Especially, in ah, Latino families, you know um, the girl’s virginity, you know is something very sacred and special and you know when they find out that their daughter is pregnant a lot of times they just kick the girl out. You know, so she I told her she is very lucky to have a strong family. You know I’m very nervous and scared for her. I could handle it. I’m 34 of, of been through a lot of stuff and I could handle it. I’m going to be there for her as much as I can but that does not mean I am going to do everything for her because that’s also something I am scared of. That she’s going to say well, moms here to help she’ll do it you know, the baby is crying she’ll wake up, that is not how it is going to be. I’ll be there to help her because I don’t want her to get pregnant, again. I want her to see how hard it is because
10:23:00:00	it is hard.
	FIMMAKER: (off-screen) How did your mom react when you told her you were pregnant?
	CRYSTAL: Ah, when it happened I sat down ah, I was too embarrassed to tell her ah, I finally got the guts to tell her when my father wasn’t home because I was scared of what my father would do. Not that he would do anything just in my mind I thought he would do something and when I told her she was, started, her eyes got watery and I started crying and I told her I was sorry and she told me what do you plan on doing. Well, I told her I was going to keep the baby. And I obviously kept Athena and it was hard because I was trying to go to school and I wasn’t able to finish college and ah, work at the same time and trying to support her. So, I ended up quitting college
10:24:00:00	and just um, taking classes here and there, whenever I could and I still am taking classes. I’m 34, and I’m still taking classes, and I haven’t got a degree, yet. So you know, it got to the point and actually this year I’m gonna to finish up all my classes this year and get my degree. And my daughter is pregnant, which is another step back for me, but you know I could take Internet courses. So you know,
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) Is there anything you want to add?
	CRYSTAL: Um, just that it is going to be a hard road and one thing I do wish there was a couple more services available for kids. I understand that they’re alternative schools for the kids that are pregnant,
10:25:00:00	but where they are is bad neighborhoods. They don’t seem to be in any um, safer neighborhoods or um, or there is not to many programs out there for um, pregnant teens, you know and when they are they are just limited to certain things, you know.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen)Is Athena in any programs?
	Um, she is actually in a program where this I got lucky because my sisters ah, good friend ah, used to work at a social service program. And so, she knows a lot of people and she is in a program where ah, a nurse actually comes to the home and ah, tells her step by step each ah, things that is going to be happening to her body or what to expect during the pregnancy and its been really good for her. She comes here for about an hour and once a week and speaks to her about things that are
10:26:00:00	going to be happening to her, so thats good. And I think that after once the baby is born there is gonna be someone who’s going to be coming ah, also, once a week who’s going to help ah, with the baby as far as teaching her about the baby’s development and what to expect the baby to do and what not to do with the baby and things like that, which I think are really good programs.
	FILMMAKER: (off-screen) OK, I think that’s all my questions for you. Do you have anything? All right we’re good.
10:26:33:00

117	

17:00:13	ATHINA: (Sitting at a kitchen table) Well maybe.  If we move by then, by there Ethan’s probably going to go to Mark Twain.  That little school right there. 
DAVID: (Standing by the kitchen counter, holding his infant daughter, Athina’s half sister)Yeah.
ATHINA: Yeah.
	(Christy is moving about the kitchen, preparing a meal) 
17:00:30 	(Christy and David talk about having David’s aunt watch their child).
17:01		(They continue to talk about the childcare).
17:01:08	DAVID: Yeah I was telling Christy about the hospital, how I asked, when actually when you gave birth (inaudible) gave birth to the baby, I asked the nurse, well how much does she weigh and the length and she told me that, well, they don’t do that here, they do it. 
ATHINA: They do it in the nursery.
DAVID: They do it in the nursery.
ATHINA: Yeah. 
DAVID: (inaudible)
ATHINA: Why is that odd? 
CHRISTY: They did everything in the room and they gave her a bath.
DAVID: I mean yeah they gave her a bath and everything, they …prints, the works.
CHRISTY: Yeah they let your Dad give her a bath after they did like her prints and how long she was and measured her head.
ATHINA: No they did all that in the nursery.
DAVID: They let me change her and everything.
ATHINA: No they cleaned her up a little bit in the room and everything like that.
(All three talk at once, inaudible) 
CHRISTY: They didn’t measure.
ATHINA: No they gave her…
DAVID: Cause after I left I didn’t know anything I mean it was like what a half hour…
CHRISTY: He was on the way home and I was like, ok how much does the baby weigh, how long was she?  He’s like, I don’t know, and I’m like how can you not know, we just did this.  And he was like no it wasn’t like that.
17:02	ATHINA: No.  They did everything in the nurse…they,they let me hold her for like thirty, they… I had to feed her and everything for like over a half an hour.
	DAVID: Theyad like a room full, I mean I don’t know,  I counted a room full of girls, a row of beds.
ATHINA: Oh that’s… 
	AVID: Fifteen (inaudible, Athina cuts in)
ATHINA: …the, the…
CHRISTY:(inaudible)
ATHINA: OB triage. That’s how it was, it was four beds.
CHRISTY: (inaudible, sounds like: before you go in)
ATHINA: Yeah, yeah.
DAVID: So I see a bunch of pregnant women walking around in circles.
CHRISTY: Oh 
ATHINA: Cause it’s, we’re not part of the regular ER. It’s on the 6th floor 
CHRISTY: Yeah
ATHINA: And then um it’s like four beds here and then one bed right here.
CHRISTY: So it was one big room.
ATHINA: Yeah it was one big room, and then…
DAVID: But you didn’t wait in there did you?
ATHINA: Yeah I did, I was, I was in the bigger, actually all the four beds they’re all cramped together but I got the big one, they had like all this space, and um I was in there for about an hour and then they gave me my own room cause…  
CHRISTY: (inaudible)
ATHINA: Yeah its…
CHRISTY:…once you get to a certain point
ATHINA: No
DAVID: Now there were…
ATHINA: Actually they put, since I was so far along they just put my IV in, 
17:03	then they took down my information and they just took me to the room that’s it.
DAVID: She…
CHRISTY: OB triage.
DAVID: She showed up at the hospital, what five centimeters, five and a half centimeters?
CHRISTY: Yeah.
DAVID: You’re, what five dilated, that’s how you say it? 
CHRISTY: Uh huh.
DAVID: Well…
CHRISTY: Well when we went, triage at the hospital was that first floor we went to, the fourth floor.  
DAVID: Yeah.
CHRISTY: But we had our own rooms. Like but they weren’t like room with a door, just had like a curtain.  
DAVID: And there were…
CHRISTY: Little alcoves.
DAVID: I counted twelve …
ATHINA: Well its one big room and its like curtains. 
CHRISTY: Yeah, well no this had a hall.
ATHINA: Oh 
CHRISTY: And they were just like little rooms, they were like, like… 
DAVID: I counted …
CHRISTY: (inaudible) and then they just pull the curtain right there, so you have your own room, had your own TV and stuff.
DAVID: I counted twelve people there, not including the doctors, the doctors.
ATHINA: Wha’d’you mean?
DAVID: There were like twelve  nurses in there at one time. 
ATHINA: In my room when I was …
DAVID: Yeah.
ATHINA: …giving birth? Yeah…
DAVID: Yeah, when you were pushing.
ATHINA: Yeah it was the nurse… my two nurses, the doctor, the pediatricians, because um when they broke my bag it had uh murk murk  
17:04		murcrium in it. 
DAVID: No, What d’ya call it, When they crap?
CHRISTY: Yeah, latorum it’s something like…
ATHINA: Yeah.
CHRISTY: that I can’t rem… 
ATHINA: It it…
CHRISTY: I don’t know the term but yeah.
ATHINA: The pediatricians had to be in there.  
CHRISTY: Yeah.
ATHINA: So, um the pediatricians were there.
CHRISTY: Well they have the…
ATHINA: Plus the…
CHRISTY: They have the prenatal unit right?
ATHINA: Yeah and then plus the um, the residents.
DAVID: You, you were yelling with a, like a I dunno it’s… 
ATHINA: Yeah.
DAVID: The only way to describe it is when somebody overexagegrates, really yeah that’s how she was, just over exaggerating uh, it seemed like she was over exaggerating.  
CHRISTY: Well why don’t you squeeze out a baby and see how you act.  
DAVID: No, you just…
CHRISTY: Come on you said I was a witch, you know.
DAVID: Yeah she was.
ATHINA: What d’ya mean?
DAVID: She she was just (inaudible)
ATHINA: What, ‘don’t touch me it’s all your fault!’
CHRISTY: No.
DAVID: Don’t touch me, yeah. 
CHRISTY: I didn’t want nobody to talk to me 
17:05		either. Don’t look at me, don’t talk to me, don’t touch me.
ATHINA: Yeah I heard that…
DAVID: But don’t leave the room because he tried to leave.  And then don’t go anywhere.
ATHINA: ‘You better not leave!’ 
CHRISTY: No, I wasn’t screaming. 
DAVID: No you weren’t screaming but…this one was screaming, though.
ATHINA: I got really mad with the mask, the the oxygen mask.
DAVID: What yeah…they were give… they had… she had an oxygen mask.
ATHINA: Because I have asthma. 
DAVID: Yeah  well…
ATHINA: Cause I… 
CHRISTY: She was all stuffy last week.
ATHINA: Yeah…
CHRISTY: (inaudible)
ATHINA: So they had a… it was too big for my face and I was like ‘uh.’  And it was poking me in the eye and finally I was like ‘uh.’  It was getting me really mad… but it was funny.
DAVID: And what test did you have to wait for, for like three days for some, or like 24 hr? 
CHRISTY: I thought they did everything before we left the hospital.
DAVID: Yeah she had to go back, the next day.  You had to go back the next day right?
CHRISTY: Oh, they let her go home?
ATHINA: Oh, Jaundice.  
CHRISTY:J-jaundice test.
ATHINA: Jaundice test.  Because me and the baby have two different blood
17:06	types.
DAVID: What is she? What blood type is she?
ATHINA: B positive. 
DAVID: B positive.
CHRISTY: I’m O negative.
Athan: Both of you’s? 
CHRISTY: No I am.  And she’s O positive.  
DAVID: Who, what?
CHRISTY: She’s O positive.
ATHINA: I’m O negative
CHRISTY: That’s why I had to get that shot.
DAVID: You’re O negative?
ATHINA: I’m O negative.
DAVID: And you are?
CHRISTY: O negative.  
DAVID: So you b…
CHRISTY: You got the program shot
ATHINA: Yeah I got the program shot, 
DAVID: Rare Birds
ATHINA: I had to get that, two of them.
CHRISTY: You got one after the baby came right?
ATHINA: And one before. 
DAVID: Only a certain percentage of the population is O negative, right?
CHRISTY: A large percent?
DAVID: A small. 
CHRISTY: Yeah, so we can give anybody blood but we can only have our own.  We can only have O negative.
ATHINA: Yeah. 
CHRISTY: Like but if you have like, B or O, and if you have our blood cause it’ll work for you, but we can only have our blood. 
17:06:50	(Christy and David discuss their child’s diaper)
17:07	ATHINA: But um no cause, I don’t know because (inaudible) breast-feeding and if there are two different blood types, it makes the baby more likely to get jaundice.  
CHRISTY: No, did they tell you that?
ATHINA: Yeah, so they made me go back the next day and do the blood (inaudible).  
CHRISTY: (hard to hear) No that’s a load of crap, but they usually do all those tests before the baby leaves the hospital.  They do like a couple blood tests in the heel.  And did they give her the hepatitis shot, too?
ATHINA: Yeah…yeah they gave her all that… but uh I don’t know, they made me go back the next day, to the regular pediatrician.
17:07:34 	(camera cuts- no time code break)
ATHINA: (inaudible) then by the time we left it was like 4:30.
CHRISTY: See, if they would have let you stay in the hospital one more day, like they should have, then they could just could do everything and you would be home by noon.  
DAVID: So ho do you feel though, can…
ATHINA: I feel fine
DAVID: You all right?
ATHINA: All right
DAVID: (Hard to hear) She was over the other day she said that she was going to feed the baby.  I didn’t want to go over there.  I didn’t want to walk (inaudible).
17:08	ATHINA: Well, you had (hard to hear) the thing anyways, I had a bottle of milk with me but whatever since you’re already here I’ll just… Yeah she has saliva all right here you might want to clean that off.  
CHRISTY: (inaudible)
17:08:18 	(David wipes the child’s face)
DAVID: She don’t like when I touch her face
CHRISTY: Probably because you hands feel like cement (hard to hear).
ATHINA: Kinda shows like, you know how she doesn’t like beards?
17:08:30	(David continues wiping her face)
DAVID: I do it to piss her off.
ATHINA: It’s funny when, uh Al was rubbing his uh mustache, uh beard on her.
17:08:41 	(Christy and David’s child begins to cry, and David bobs her up and down)
CHRISTY: Don’t shake her…stop shakin her…like a soda can!
(This helps the crying)
ATHINA: Goo goo goo, You google too much, nah I’m kidding.
17:08:57 	(camera cuts- no time code break)
DAVID: Yeah first weekend of June you’re on the list…
17:09		You can bring her, too if you want (addressed at the camera person).
CHRISTY: We got the invitations, we rented the hall, and now we’re just waiting for the church to call us back and I’m sure there’s going to be no problem because the date’s so far off. 
ATHINA: So yeah, yeah we’re looking right now, too.  
DAVID: So, who’s going to be the Godparents?
ATHINA: Uh I have no idea.  I was thinking of Foridia 
DAVID: That’s a good idea
ATHINA: Yeah but then I was like what about (inaudible, seems to be referring to her baby’s father) because…
DAVID:(inaudible)
ATHINA: No, he’s really attached to the baby.
DAVID: He hasn’t carried the baby yet.
ATHINA: Yes he has.
DAVID: Oh he has? I should get at his throat about that.
ATHINA: No it’s like…
DAVID: I should be like what the hell…(inaudible)
ATHINA: No it’s crazy how attached he is to the baby, when (inaudible) was born, the whole week, he came every day, and I was like, I don’t know. He’s so attached to her.  I think it was because the fact that he was there when she was born.  But he’s like really attached to her.
DAVID: He wasn’t there he was behind a curtain.
ATHINA: But still…
17:10:00:00	DAVID:  It was so cold.
DAVID’S WIFE:  Where did you take her?
DAVID: Huh?
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Where did you take her?  Where did you go?
	(DAVD Replies in Spanish)
	DAVID’S WIFE:  oh
	DAVID:  No.  It was so funny because she..while she’s giving birth and all these woman are on the other side of the curtain, you see a set of feet behind the curtain.  Her brothers.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  With overalls.  (baby cries).  What?
	ATHINA:  Oh we’re not talking to you
	DAVID’S WIFE: ( to the baby) What?  What?
	ATHINA:  That’s what that’s all about.  It’s all about Bella.  All about Bella.
	(There is some mumbling as David’s wife crosses over to the sink to drain her pasta)
	DAVID’S WIFE:  sorry!
	ATHINA:  ( to the baby)  Whh.Whaaaa.  What you laughing about?
	( old woman enters frame as David walks over to the table where Athina is sitting)
17:11:00:00	ATHINA:  That was funny cause you had met Justin at that time
	DAVID:  Yeah.. It was perfect.
	ATHINA:  Yeah
	DAVID:  Perfect timing, I had wished I was there when I got.. Well
	DAVID’S WIFE:  What?
	DAVID:  Ah it was perfect timing when I got there…
	DAVID’S WIFE:  What was the rest of that saying?
	DAVID:… she was already pushing.
	ATHINA:  Yeah what was the rest of that saying.
	DAVID:  Nothing.  Nothing else.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Just checking
	DAVID ( nodding)  Hey you gotta be careful around her, she’s all hands.
	( David and Athina laughs as David looks at his wife).  It was funny because for some reason she is all hands….she’ll reach out and grab my ass.  Put her arms around my waist.
17:12:00:00	DAVID:  Rub my thigh.  (Sighs) One time she was walking this way and I was going to the bathroom and you know and I was giving her some room so I stood right here and instead of going to her room she just came over here to pet me on the shoulder and grab my waist.  As she was walking away she ( David smiles) she…she rubbed her hand around my waist.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  I did not!
	DAVID:  She did too!
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Knock if off!  You’re sick.  You’re sick!
	DAVID:  I’m not the sick one!
	ATHINA:  ( still sitting at the table)  Wait.  I thought you were supposed to make a.. 
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Yes! Can’t you see it?
	(David’s wife walks over to the table, Athina plays with the baby’s foot)
	ATHINA:  What? Wha? Wha?
	David and his wife talk quietly as the she finishes preparing dinner
	DAVID:  Do you want orange or coke hun?
	ATHINA:  orange.
17:13:00:00	(Athina is coughing)
	ATHINA:  Cranberry sauce.
	DAVID”S WIFE:  What?
	ATHINA:  Cranberry sauce.
	DAVID:  We got to go downstairs for that.
	ATHINA:  No, I got some.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Do you want to see if there’s some in the fridge.
	( David’s wife is mashing potatoes, the dialogue is very hard to hear of the noise of the mixer)
	DAVID:  Hun, Do we put it in the microwave or should we just nuke it.  ( he picks up the ham)
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Well, you could probably put in the microwave.
	( A tattoo of the word “ Athina” on the inside of a forearm)
	DAVID:  Not, we don’t have through a metal detector machine, but we have to sign in but there’s  a long line.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  So did you get down there in time?
	DAVID:  Yeah I got there on time what time did you drop me off like 6:15 I think, 6:20. I didn’t get up till 6:50 so.
17:14:00:00	ATHINA:  Well?
	DAVID’S WIFE:  But you have to go through a metal detector.
	DAVID:  No.. no I have to sign in It’s a long line to go through….I thought you were going to leave her behind.
	(inaudible)
	( David interrupts her)
	DAVID:  No.. no she just barely started walking.
	( Athina is eating)
	DAVID’S WIFE:  So she was a year and a half then
	DAVID:  Anyway it was when you, you must have been like two
	ATHINA:  Yeah it gets pretty.
		(inaudible)
	DAVID:  I’m just saying she met her.  Actually she gave you her doll.. No no Nane’s doll to you to keep.. And it was a naked Barbie that’s all hair
17:15:00:00	DAVID:  No she wasn’t, I don’t think she was around.	
	ATHINA:  So how’d you know it was Nane’s
	DAVID:  I know she don’t play with dolls, chopped or ( inaubile)
	ATHINA:  I cant believe Boco had a man purse
	DAVID:    See he had a man purse before anybody had a man purse.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Don’t be talking about your family badly!
	DAVID:  Oh he knows. He he knows.
	( baby makes hunger noises)
	ATHINA:  What’s a matter huh?
	DAVID:  Becareful she’s a little too young for that.  She is not our size
	DAVID’S WIFE:  You gotta be real careful.  I don’t like when you bop or ( inaudible)
	DAVID:  Well I rock her in the lazy boy and she just knocks out.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  I’m just afraid of bouncing.
	DAVID:  Here just leave it there, I’ll pick it up.
17:16:00:00	ATHINA:  Gotta change her diaper
	DAVID’S WIFE:  ( inaudible)
	DAVID: ( goes to kitchen sink) By myself or with her here?
	DAVID’S WIFE:  I’ll got with.
	DAVID:  Hey can I put this, should I leave it in this thing?
	DAVID’S WIFE:  No, cause there’s no cover for that.
	DAVID:  Alright I’ll find something big.. Something bigger.  And you had this wrapped or unwrapped?
	DAVID’S WIFE:  I’m just going to cook the rest of it off and put it in 
	Baggie so if you just want to leave it on the middle of the stove, there’s no sense, maybe I’ll just give the bone to Amy.  Maybe I will just give it to her like that and she’ll cut the rest to make pea soup cause you put the ham in there too.  Didn’t you take the can of it for lunch a few weeks ago?  Last week?
	DAVID:  Yeah Cambells.  It’s not the same!
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Oh but you never had homemade?
17:17:00:00	DAVID:  No it’s not the same.
	DAVID’S WIFE:  Oh.  Sorry hunny, I need one more thing.
	DAVID:  So what do you want to ask?  See, I’ve been (opens the refrigerator) yes.  Cause the only reason why he started talking  to me is because Athina….she came to see the baby but thing is it was.
17:18:00:00	DAVID:  Athina had the baby at like 9:00 or like 9:30 at night I think.  I’m in bed normally at nine o’clock, or eight o’clock cause I gotta get up at four and uh….the hospital security got involved and they got kicked out 
	and I don’t know what.  But the thing is we worked out a deal
17:19:00:00	DAVID: and actually I told her mom too that I think I told her.  I don’t know I was thinking about it I told her that maybe they could come see the baby and you know I don’t think they’re financial stable so maybe they could take care of the baby when Athina’s not home from school or something.  Need something?  You could have left it next to the crib or something, I always do. ( throws the diaper in the garbage).  So we got along great…he was sort of offended because we didn’t tell that Athena had the baby and I told him.
17:20:00:00	ATHINA’S FATHER:  …and I told him, I told him I couldn’t because I was at work and I was gonna call him at work and all this happened before, yeah he didn’t like to hear anything so he told me he was gonna call his lawyer or something like that and he stopped calling me.  He called me a bunch of times just asking about the baby.  Eh you know itsy bits of information here and there.  Didn’t work out, I thought we were gonna get along but at the end he started acting like a real jack off.  Now do I blame him?  No I don’t blame him.  I don’t know, the whole…this whole thing is a big mess.  I don’t from her grandparents well her dad didn’t say anything to me.  Wished her the best.  So…my Ma well she couldn’t find, she couldn’t find enough people to blame.
17:21:01:20	DIRECTOR:  So what was it like?  ‘Cause you were with her right?  When the baby was born?
17:21:05:05	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Yeah, yeah first it was…(is interrupted by the director)
17:21:06:15	DIRECTOR:  What was that like?
17:21:07:17	ATHINA’S FATHER:  First I felt awkward  ‘cause her mom was there you know, but all that went out the window when the baby came.  I was happy and I was disappointed too because of the whole situation.  And uh, not only that, I felt bad being there because all the nurse they were supportive with Athina, they were supporting her a hundred percent, but I was sort of thinking in the back of my mind you know, what are they thinking?  You know because of her age and everything.  So…yeah that sort of clouded my mind for a while.
17:21:47:23	DIRECTOR:  And do you think other people are judging her?
17:21:51:00	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Oh definitely, they did it to me so…I heard it from all walks of life.  I didn’t wanna say anything bad, I mean I don’t, I just, when I say this I don’t want…don’t take this in offense, you know?  Everybody from my Aunt, her mom, my mom, my dad, ya know?  So…that when it happened to me so…
17:22:17:10	DIRECTOR:  What was it like when she was born?
17:22:20:05	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Y a know its different when you’re an adult though, ‘cause I remember when I was young it didn’t phase me or anything.  (He directs his attention to something off camera)  Need something Shirley?
17:22:30:15	SHIRLEY:  Yes, where’s Chrissie?
17:22:32:09	ATHINA’S FATHER:  She’s downstairs.
17:22:34:00	SHIRLEY:  Oh, tell her her Aunt Fran died, there’s gonna be a wake on Wednesday.
17:22:43:00	ATHINA’S FATHER:  I’ll tell her.
17:22:47:20	SHIRLEY:  I didn’t mean to interrupt you.
17:22:49:00	ATHINA’S FATHER:  No that’s all right.  (Long pause)  Yeah, I mean it didn’t phase me, it didn’t really…actually the same way she’s thinking rightt now, I thought the same way too.  I didn’t give a care in the world, ya know?  I didn’t care.  I didn’t care what people thought.  But you know it’s different when you are an adult and you see it happen to your own kids.  It’s funny that you say that because my dad said the same damn thing too when it happened to me.  Ya know…so…the only, the only, see its hard saying I don’t know, its hard to say it too because you don’t have any kids and when you have kids it’s a whole totally different feeling.  You know they always come first.  No matter what, you can have holes in your shoes and they always come first.  And it sort of bummed me out when it happened to her because, I don’t, basically ‘cause your teenage life stops there.  Its not gonna be the same, people don’t think of her the same, and I don’t know, I remember talking with my friend in high school, and even now they still think differently about girls and woman who had kids at a young age.  I don’t think that will ever change.  So…
17:24:19:35	DIRECTOR:  Has your relationship changed since she got pregnant and had the baby?
17:24:23:10	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Well how long has it been since she’s had the baby…since two weeks ago right?  March?  It’s hard to say because its so short, but I haven’t seen her that much.  She used to come over every weekend and, uh, but now she’s only been over twice, this being her second time.  She doesn’t…nah..I don’t know I guess she’s busy.  Yeah and plus her mom is giving her a hard time, she doesn’t want her to take the baby out a lot.  And I just don’t want her to come over by herself because, ya know, Id rather have all three of them come over.  Ya know?  Instead of having one at a time.  I think it kind of sucks, the (inaudible) is here, but uh, but then again every time I came over she planted her ass in front of the TV.
17:25:23:09	DIRECTOR:  Has anything else changed?  Since she got pregnant?
17:25:26:35	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Like I said I really cant tell you.  Tell me in a year…yeah I’ll tell you but I can’t say anything right now it’s only been two weeks.
17:25:36:23	DIRECTOR:  How does it feel having a child and a grandchild months (inaudible)
17:25:42:01	ATHINA’S FATHER:  You know what, it hasn’t set in yet.  The only reason why is I think that it will set in when the baby grows up and starts walking around and then I have to start introducing the baby to people, ya know?  But yeah, I don’t know, it probably wont set in until she gets older.  You know what, probably when I start taking her places with me.  Yeah, and like for instance I guess I feel embarrassed about the whole thing.  I cant…like Chrissie’s friends, I mean her family and her friends, and I refuse to talk to them about it.  But I told Chrissie ya know, but yeah its something you cant hide.  I told Chrissie’s parents, I mean I told Chrissie and I’ll tell yours…(he hears a voice off camera)  What?  What?  Go ahead.
17:26:39:10	UNKOWN:  Somebody’s cell phone was ringing.
17:26:40:01	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Alright…No uh, uh…I don’t know, I told Chrissie to tell her family or her cousins that Athina had the baby, yada yada yada.  But I just couldn’t get myself to talk to them about it.  I just don’t want to talk to them about it.  I told her ya know, please make it descrete or just don’t tell them the details.  Basically I just don’t wanna talk to them about it.  So, uh, like Sunday they gave me presents for Athina and they gave me things for the baby too and I don’t know, I guess you just feel embaressed.  It’s a real shitty thing to feel but its something you can’t help.
17:27:28:15	DIRECTOR:  Do you think that’s what your parents were thinking?
17:27:33:09	ATHINA’S FATHER:  I really don’t know, It’s hard to say because they were, they were in the middle of…they were too consumed with each other.  At the time they were having bad marriage problems.  Their marriage, I mean you could see it coming, like a freight train, it was like it was just waiting to keel over.  I guess this is what, when I had Athina…when I told them I was going to have Athina, I guess that is what broke the camels back.  As soon as I told my mom my mom told my dad and then that’s when they split up.  I don’t know if you know that…yeah that’s when they split up.  That same night.  I mean they argued about it and next thing you know my Ma is moving her shit out.  So…I tell my Ma, I told my mom as a matter of fact and she says she doesn’t think it was part of it either.  But she’s not gonna tell me the truth.  She tells me they already had problems, but who knows it was 15 years ago.
17:28:46:10	DIRECTOR:  Do you see a (CUTS OFF)
17:28:47:10	ATHINA’S FATHER:  I hope not, ya know?  I hope everything works out for her ya know?  I’m glad her families gonna help her out and me too I’ll help her out too.  There’s a lot of support backing her.  That’s the only reason why there’s a lot, because she’s only, ya know, fourteen.  But, yeah, it really sucks.  I told Athina I just wish you would have told us earlier.  And it really bums me out too because I was telling Athina a long time ago, many times, that she can talk to me about anything, ya know?  I’m not gonna get mad.  I’ll be disappointed but I’m not gonna blow up at her.  I want her to be, ya know, I don’t care if she doesn’t want to be my friend but somebody to talk to.  I told her before talk to me about anything you can ask me anything.  I’ll be straight up with you.  I’ll answer you, not lie to you, you know but just this one thing.  I didn’t even blow up with her, I was disappointed you know, I just wish you…I’m more mad at the fact that you didn’t tell me ya know?  And hopefully she still comes forward and tell me, talks to me about anything.  So…from what Athina told me, she had a harder time when she told her mom than with me.  So…I don’t know.
17:30:27:05	DIRECTOR:  Is there anything you wanna add…in two minutes?  (chuckles)
17:30:31:09	ATHINA’S FATHER:  Well I just hope her life turns out great, ya know?  I mean look at me, I’m thirty years old, I think ever since I had Athina I had dead end jobs or I’ve had jobs I shoulda cared and didn’t.  I’m thirty years old and starting over, ya know?  Starting a job that I cared about and am concerned about, but I just hope the same thing doesn’t happen to her.  I hope everything turns out right.  Only time will tell.